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• Nagoya Travel Report Dated Added: Thu Feb 14 2008 Submitted by: Educated Consumer
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  Batam is some sort of special economic zone and Nagoya, where hotels and action is, appears to be a quite well-to-do place. Roads are passable, McDonalds and some grocery stores open 24 hours, plenty of restaurants. Surprisingly, there are no beggars and at night I didn't see any criminal types in the streets. That is nice, but there's downside to urban and ecomonical development. It makes sex scene less boring. In Nagoya, it's very mediocre, with demand overweighing supply. You wouldn't believe a horrible things I've seen in Batam. Bars full of Westerns, some in their 20s, no women, except for barmaids. Other bars with working girls, with Westerners outnumbering them, like, 3 to 1. White businessmen in their 50s having dinner with hookers old enough to be their younger sisters. Brothels unable to accomodate customers, because all the gilrs are taken already.( I suppose, one can wait, but, c'mon... ) Things are just sad. That's not to say I didnt have a good time. I hooked up with a cute freelancer I met in a old-fashioned way, in a street. Stuck with her for a week, she was sweet and low-maintenance, but, when I got tired of her, finding a suitable replacement wasn't easy. However, I've done some research and here's some bits and pieces:
  
  Do not go there for sex if you look older than 40 and require a young girl with a GFE experience. With so many foreigners working there and Singaporeans flooding this place on a weekends, there are not enough young girls to begin with and many aren't willing to be seen with a customer in public. It's like wearing sign "whore" on one's forehead.
  
  PP Banana mentioned on this site and other's, too, is a tiny little dump with only two heavily-used ho's working there by 11 pm. One told me that total was 6, but 4 was taken out. See what I mean about supply and demand? There are number of bars in a walking distance that have better-looking women, but if you see something hot, better grab it early. Fortunately, many Westerners that I mentioned before are English or Scottish and care more for their booze than pussy, but, apparently, they still represent competition, when they finally are waisted.
  
  Most taxi drivers, motorbike and regular, will offer you a trip to "ladies". That means brothel. Standard short ride in a city is 10k for a bike and 20k for a car. Budget concious must learn numbers in Indonesian, otherwise you will be charged double for taxi and many other things. But 10k doesn't hurt to pay if you feeling adventurous. Brothels offer wide selection of girls, however, 80 per cent of them are straight-up ugly, some old, some ugly, some both. If a girl looks pretty, I guarantee, there would be something very wrong with her, when she takes her clothes off. The right price is 300k for a all-night takeout, anytning above that would mean a commision for a taxi driver. However, the fee is not refundable and there is absolutely no guarantee of good service or anything that qualifies as service at all. You can fuck a girl in a brothel, short time, for 150-200k, in a tiny room or a cubicle with a small bed in a shower stall that doubles as toilet, if that's your thing.
  
  There are two major discos in Batam, Planet and Pacific. Both offer hookers for a company, this shit being uniquely Indonesian, brothel in a disco, in Jakarta, for example, quality is exceptional at 250k short time, couldnt find out about Batam; had a girlfriend on my hands in Planet, and in Pacific, they were all busy by midnight. Finding a freelancer in a disco is quite simple, all you need is a bit of local language and confidence to speak it through non-stop defeaning techno. Ok, just kidding, speaking isnt important, but this places are very dark and its hard to see the girl face. Someone came up with an idea to use a pocket flash light, similar to what waiters carry to insure a proper payment. I think that would look look ridicilous, but its just me. Most girls in a disco are for sale if uncompanied, you can catch them outside, its easier. Most of them have pimps, which they would refer to as brothers or uncles. The service is usually good and unrushed, but most of them woudn't be interested in spending a night, since they need to report back to the "family" as soon as possible.
  
  Anyway, I would give Batam 3 stars out of possible 5. Getting laid isn't a problem in general, but one has to adjust his standards a bit. (Review # 22413)

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• Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Thu Feb 14 2008 Submitted by: Jack
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  I have now lived in Pattaya for 6 years and would like to post a warning about Sin city,the good times are over so don't waste your money or time coming here.
  
  The average quality of the girls is about a 4 or 5 and there main goal is to see how many idiots they can hook into sending them money every month with the promise that they will return home and wait for you in the village,of course they tell there other 3 boyfriends the same thing.It appears that one of the main reason for this is the Young Brits coming here with there black money and there life saving and they williness to pay the girls to much money.They have driven price to a point that it makes us expats laugh.Bar fines are now between 500 and 1000 baht and then they want 1000 baht for a short time and many of the Go Go girls want as much 3000 to 4000 baht for a short time and bar fine at the Go Go's are 1000baht and up.
  
  The police are now enforcing personal fines of 2000baht for smoking in Bars and the police pray on the farangs hoping you make a mistake.You should know your are always wrong and will never win any dispute with a Thai.Many of the girls are now openly drugging there customer and stealing them blind and you will get no help from the local police.On any given night as many as 4 or 5 frangs can be mugged ,many of them beaten on the Soi's by gangs of Thai's while people stand and watch and if you get involved then you will get your ass kicked.This is only the tip of the ice berg but be very careful if you travel to Pattaya. (Review # 22410)