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  • Pattaya Escort Review Dated Added: Tue Jul 22 2008 Submitted by: Khun Sanuk

     Six days on overdrive in Bangkok and Pattaya and the cracks in the veneer began to show... Working in Thailand the past few years I learned to party at a sustainable level, to have a wild three-on-one Saturday night and show up ready to work on Monday.

    Now that I’m just dropping in for a week or so at a time, it seems I’ve lost my touch. Burning the candle at both ends, I wake each day more wiped out than the day before. Yesterday I looked around my Pattaya Penthouse room and saw a cockroach, realized that the “balcony” was just a fire escape, and that there was no view at all. Nothing against Penthouse, Lord bless ‘em, it’s the effect of this lifestyle. I took my first close look at the sea, saw the garbage on the beach, all the bullshit clutter of jetskis and restaurant boats in the dirty bay. I just couldn’t believe that normal people come here on their vacations, but they do.

    What looked like paradise in neon a few days ago showed it’s age and condition in the daylight, like the BG who looked great in a dark bar at 2 am and in the morning turns out to be a painted out battle vet. Maybe this is why I only come out at night, to keep the illusion alive.

    I went up to Bangkok last night for dinner with ex-coworkers, planning to return to Pattaya the next day. The view from Scirocco was great, but when the friends went home, I slipped back to my secret Thail life, charging for lower Suk like a rat after cheese… I’ll spare you the details of that night… saw some girls I cherish, ended up at the hotel with one of them – Dao again, a sweet tiny-bodied regular with a smile and spirit that lights me up. (More about Dao in my report '33: The First Day Back'). This story starts the next morning. We woke up around noon. I was still in a haze – either very hungover or still a little wasted - but I knew I was supposed to go back to Pattaya, back to where my “friend” Gai was waiting for me at the beer bar where she’s a manager, or assistant manager, or assistant manager cum freelance hooker… Anyway, she’s at a bar, what she does there is her business. Dao’s a clever one, and before I rubbed the sleep from my eyes she was on my morning wood, and once she’s on top of me I can’t say no, so… another round with Dao. She’s one of those tiny girls, a spinner, and can’t take the length of my dick very comfortably, so prefers to be on top – when the day’s first cum shot out of me, that’s where Dao was, on top wearing a victorious grin while I twitched below her, pumping out my load.

    My hangover and after-sex glow made me vulnerable, so Dao took advantage. She begged to come to Pattaya, promised that she wouldn’t get in the way, that she’d behave… and in my weakened state I finally relented. Yes, shipping pussy to Pattaya makes coal to Newcastle sound like a good idea, but I’ve got bad judgment (especially when lying on my back trying to catch my breath after sex while a cute girl licks my balls and says she’ll be good, her eyes full of earnest yearning…). Things started to go wrong moments after I said yes. Dao said she needed an hour to get her things together – a girl who lives in a hovel off Soi 3 needs an hour, for what?! I was exhausted, so I came up with what seemed like a good idea: while Dao went home to pack, I’d go to the Playboy Hotel to sleep for another hour, where she would meet me when ready to go.

    So, alone, I checked into the short-time Playboy Hotel to get some sleep, a new personal low. Again, it’s nothing against the PB, I love the place and have spent dozens and dozens of nights there, and they’ve never let me down. Ok, once they didn’t bring the soap and toothpaste like they’re supposed to, but generally it’s a fine choice. A few hours later there was banging on the door… Dao. I opened the door, and her friend Sao was with her.

    In a moment I could tell the two girls were loaded, beyond loaded, laughing incessantly and bouncing around the room like two trapped bats, with that flashing nervous look in their eyes. They're great for a threesome, but no fucking way I was going to take the two of them to Pattaya, especially not in the state they were in!

    Sao is borderline psychotic and more than a little dangerous. It wasn’t even a question that they could both go (if I needed someone to pinch my nipples and talk dirty to me while I fucked Dao, I could certainly find someone in Pattaya, right?), so I told Sao to leave. Isaan radar can sense a lost cause, so Sao took the news gracefully and left (with 500 baht – it improved the Isaan radar, I guess).

    We got a taxi for Pattaya, Dao and I, headed inevitably south like condensation on a cold bottle of Singh. She tried to behave in the taxi, and I loved her for that: she lay on the backseat, her head in my lap, pretending to sleep even though I knew she was speeding along at 100 miles an hour. The driver played the worst mixed tape ever, all the songs you never want to hear again: that Casablanca song, Hotel California, I-love-you-more-than-I-can-say, and so on. I wanted to stop at every passing Seven to buy some new tapes, but couldn’t bear to delay my arrival in Pattaya, so we kept on. By the time we neared Pattaya Dao had to boet chee, but she was still trying to be a good girl, and didn’t complain, just looked awfully tense.

    When we get to Penthouse, though, she sprinted for the toilet. When she returned she wore the same relieved, victorious grin she’d had after fucking me, and was almost dancing– Dao on vacation, her usual shit life not looking so bad. Dao loved the Penthouse, she’d never seen its funky idiosyncrasies before and spent a good twenty minutes exploring the place like a kid in a candy factory.

    By the time darkness fell (and Pattaya put on her lurid makeup for another night of hustle), I was ready to get back to the action. I’d told Gai I’d come see her when I got back from Bangkok, but I was at least smart enough to call ahead now to ask whether she would care if I brought little Dao with me. I told Gai not to worry, she’s not my girlfriend, she’s my ‘little sister’. Gai sounded fine with it, said she’d be happy to meet Yim’s friend. “No problem,” she says, and then the words that should have been a warning to me: “Up to you. You know I never make problem, what you want to do, you do.”

    Advice for the very new: the first time you hear ‘up to you’ in Thailand, it’s alright to assume it actually means ‘up to you’. The second time it’s understandable. But after that, you’d better know better. What it really means is: “This is a warning: you’re playing with fire!” I should have known this by my 33rd trip to Thailand, but I missed the warning, and marched straight ahead…

    At the little beer bar, I gave Gai a big kiss (while Dao studied the floor…), and did my best to smooth out tension by ringing the bell and squeezing Dao’s hand below the bar – while paying a lot of attention to Gai. Gai looked great in a black mini-dress that highlighted her tight little body and full breasts, much better than Dao.

    Gai's got fantastic tits, a full and connected package with upturned nipples, rather than splaying out like the tits on a farang girl, or the legs of a newborn calf. It’s hard to explain, there’s a little connection tissue across Gai’s breastbone… The bummer with Gai’s tits is that their museum-quality structure is marred by a big tattoo on the left one. It used to be a guy’s name, but she had that removed, and covered the scar with a new tattoo of a big rose. I would’ve recommended a “Used Goods” tattoo instead of the rose (after all, honesty is the best policy), but… she went with the rose.

    Gai is all Thai smiles with Dao, the way Thais are. After a few drinks for everyone, I proposed going to Marine, but Gai had to do the bar accounts and would meet us there later. Dao and I went back to Penthouse for a moment, and while I had a bourbon and wondered how I was going to sort out the Gai-Dao problem, Dao went for her own version of instant courage.

    Dao and I took a stroll on Walking Street, which reminded me how provincial these girls can be. Dao’s been selling her ass for at least a few years in Bangkok but hadn’t been to Pattaya before, and she was wide-eyed at the neon, the hundreds of girls, the endless go-gos. I bought some sunglasses for both of us, a couple hundred baht worth of anonymity.

    Dao looked absurd in hers, but she seemed happy to be out with me, happy that I was still open to buying her gifts, no matter how small. We stopped in at Tony’s but nothing turned us on; it was just pop music and a bunch of Arabs and Indians dancing on the stage, some pretentious vehicles in the front, and irritating staff pestering us to buy day-glo bullshit. After fifteen minutes, we left and dropped in at a few random go-go, where Dao bought drinks for a couple girls – more her element.

    By the time we reached Marine, it was getting late, so I looked for Gai immediately. I thought I spotted her dancing on a riser with a couple hotties. Yep, that’s her – God, she was still looking great, and dancing hard; she was pulling out the stops tonight, I could tell, putting on her best show to fight off Dao’s competition... Dao and I joined Gai, making an odd threesome – Dao the outsider, Gai the local pro (she knows everyone, staff, girls, everyone, and gets a lot of wais) and me, the farang who’s stupidly brought a tiraak down from Bangkok…

    When Marine closes we made the trek to Marine 2, and things begin to really unravel. Dao didn’t want to dance anymore, and told me she wanted to leave me alone with Gai for a while, to go back to the room. She had a desperate, unhappy look to her, the kind that says: ‘Up to you!’ and sat on a couch with her arms folded across her flat little chest. I tried to convince her to stay, but… she left (OK, I didn’t try very hard). Gai and I kept on dancing and drinking and smiling.

    I checked in with Dao after an hour or so, and it was clear she was losing it. I could tell from the phone that she’s not in the room – she said she’s getting her haircut (it’s maybe 4 am) and then told me she’s going to karaoke and didn’t want to talk to me anymore. I’m worried about her, she has a dangerous tone to her voice, but she’s hung up and won’t pick up my calls.

    Well, nothing I can do about it: she said she’d be cool in Pattaya and not bother me, so, I get on with my fun with Gai and her friends at Marine 2. I’ve been almost a week in Thailand at this point, and like Dao I’m also getting frazzled.

    Gai and I take a break from the disco scene to sit at Lucky Star bar, have a drink, decompress. Gai seems even more worn out than I, and a little lost, even though this is her neighborhood, her comfort zone. While Gai went to the toilet, I watched the evening’s dregs flow past – yeah, I’m part of it, but it’s still fun to watch. With no tattoos, I felt conspicuous among the farang crowd, but the alcoholic circles under my eyes helped me blend in. As I yet another Brit argued with the snake guys near the Marine elevators, a burst of activity exploded behind me, towards Marine 2. A crowd formed, maybe a fight? I’ve learned to keep my distance from trouble that doesn’t have my name on it, so I didn’t bother to investigate, just kept watching the street.

    Just then, Gai returned. She took her seat and put her arm around me, snuggled up, kind of a GFE thing. I asked her if she saw what just happened – now the police had arrived. Gai answered with a general proposition: “Fucking farang no good.” “What happened?” “Fucking farang grabbed my ass. I hate farang, you know, I wear this dress, so he thinks he can touch me, fucking farang. So I hit him.” She demonstrated, grabbing my beer bottle by the neck, making a striking motion. We're not ten yards from the crowd and police, and although she was pissed off, she wasn’t worried. “You hit him with a beer bottle?” “Beer bottle no good, baby, beer bottle break. Hit him with cola bottle, not break, now he good night too much!” She laughed, and I couldn’t help laughing with her. Fucking Christ, I’m sitting with this little woman with great tits, and we’re laughing at the fact that she’s just knocked out a farang with a Coke bottle just behind us. Once I heard Gai’s claim, I had to check it out. Sure enough, a middle-aged farang sat on the ground in the crowd recovering, nursing his head.

    Thais stood around exuding no sympathy at all, including the cops. No one even glanced at Gai, though they must have known she’d done it. I came back to Gai and she was talking to a policeman. She explained that he’s a friend of hers, no problem, just say hello.

    While I took in the scene, a Polaroid guy interpreted my blank look as a request for a photo of Gai and I. The flash bursts in our faces – and even though I didn’t ask for it, the product is one of my guilty treasures: a picture of me and Gai, stone-faced, exhausted, dressed to party, with bottomless eyes.

    Since I wasn’t very comfortable sitting and waiting for the farang to come after Gai, we headed over to dance out the night at JP. We’d already been there about twenty minutes before I realized that my anal adventure from a few nights ago [read about her in trip report 'Mama Tried'], Pompuey, was sitting right behind me, looking very unhappy. When I saw her I involuntarily glanced around for any Coke bottles within her reach… I gave a weak smile, but got only a teary-eyed ‘fuck you farang’ look in return, again arms folded across her chest. Everywhere I look tonight, seems there's a pissed off TG... Somehow, Gai and I end up back at her beer bar at around 10 am. What kind of life is this…

    We’re having morning drinks and playing slow pool, just us and a bartender and two other farang with their girls. My mobile rings. Oh shit, right, it’s Dao. She tells me she’s leaving for Bangkok, she wishes she’d never come, she’ll never see me again. Okay, okay… “Are you in the room, Dao baby?” “Yes, but I’m leaving now. I don’t want to talk to you. I don’t want to see you.” “Wait until I come there, I’ll get you a taxi, I want to talk to you.” Why would I want to talk to her? I’m a glutton for punishment. Well, I guess I should make sure she doesn’t leave with my suitcase and the hotel CD player... “No, I leave already.” I called the hotel desk to ask if my girlfriend has taken her ID from security: the ID is gone.

    I decide to head back for damage control, and Gai gives me a ride on her motorbike. As we approached the room, I dreaded what we’d find: a trashed room, my stuff stolen? I turned the key – and find the room locked from inside! Ah, she’s still there. I knocked, and knocked, and knocked…. No answer. I had visions of Dao on the bathroom floor, slit wrists, blood everywhere; Dao hanging from the shower, or –somehow – from the go-go pole that graced the room…

    Dao finally opened the door, then returned to a chair where she curled up in a little ball of hate. Gai – survival instincts intact – took one look at Dao and decided to split. “Call me,” she said, getting down the stairs as fast as her high heels would take her.

    Dao was in tears, after wandering Pattaya all night. I asked why she was wearing all new clothes, dressed like a Chinese tourist – she said she was afraid people would know she wasn’t from Pattaya if she wore her Bangkok clothes, so last night - at 5 am? - she bought things to help her fit in. Fit in, with the all-night Pattaya crowd?!

    Not exactly the most discerning bunch, but… Dao hates Pattaya now, she pretended she was a tourist and didn’t speak Thai while she walked around town for hours. Eventually she got lost and had to take a pickup back – she showed the driver the hotel card and didn’t say a word in Thai, just like a tourist… After two hours of useless discussion, Dao dried her tears and left, thank God.

    Relieved, I lay back on the bed… and called Gai. She was at her bar still, and jumped on her motorbike right away. Even with Dao gone, things kept spiraling downward. Gai and I had sex, but I came quickly, just glad I could come at all at this hour of the morning. Gai got pissed off about that, I think she felt she had been such a good sport about Dao she at least deserved a good fucking and a little BFE of her own – but I didn’t care at that point, not at all. I poured myself a sweet dreams drink and was just glad that yesterday was finally coming to an end… and then Gai began HER rant.

    What NOW?! How much does a guy have to pay for fun and a few hours of sleep? But Gai is going on and on about how I treat her like a whore (“umm… well, I uh, thought that you um, were… oh nevermind”) and then she went on to her whole life, my second sobbing TG in an hour, how much her life sucks, how her friends are evil and Thai people are selfish, and finally we got to the part where she explains that she hasn’t slept in two nights and her life is falling apart, she can’t eat, she’s going to stop tomorrow and never smoke again, she swears, she’s going to gain weight, get a new job… I made her a drink, and gave her something to help her relax, and ten minutes later she was snoring. Thank God for chemicals, though of course it’s chemicals that brought her collapse on in the first place. Later she’s snoring (not the usual BG purr, but real snoring – kind of cute, actually, this little naked tattoed body snoring, rising and falling with each breath…). I sleep. She sleeps. We don’t wake up until seven or so.

    I give Dao a call – she’s back safe in Bangkok, and in good spirits: she wants me to come back up there, all my sins are forgiven. While I’m on the phone with Dao, Gai is shaking off her sleepiness and starts making phone calls, looking for something… There go her plans to never smoke again. When she’s arranged a meeting she dresses quickly, kisses my cheek, and takes my money without a word about being treated like a whore. When she’s gone I lock the door, turn the TV on low, and lie back on the bed. It’s Beyonce on TV, but I couldn’t care if it was Bob Hope – as long as it’s not Dao or Gai! I can’t keep up this madness much longer, something’s going to give, something’s gonna go wrong, I’m going to be the one with the Coke bottle on my head soon if I’m not careful with these lunatic girls in these dirty cities...

    But it’s alright for now, I’ve got a plane ticket back to work tomorrow, maybe I can take it easy tonight, stay out of trouble. I’ve got no energy left, all this booze and lack of sleep and the stress of girls I can barely remember and several I can’t forget, the motorbike rides, inevitable sunrise, overheated ATMs, beer-and-cigarette breakfasts. I only had a week for this trip, and it’s about time to get out of town.     (Review # 24299)
  • bangkok Massage Parlor Dated Added: Wed Aug 16 2006 Submitted by: Akhter

     Hi, just got back from Bangkok & Pattaya tour 2 days back and was staying in Amari Atrium hotel in Bangkok. I went for a massage to a massage parlor in front of a hotel I m forgetting the name. After a cool and breath taking full body oil massage I asked the lady to give me a hand job. Initially she refused but in the end she agreed as I offered her to pay 200 Bhat extra for that. Guys believe me what an amazing hand job that was. I recommend you all to visit that massage parlor right infront of the Amari Atrium Hotel, the lady name is Pah. Guys please treat the Thai women with respect as they are doing all the bad things to support their families. I met few girls in Pattaya (Welch) at Toni's bar, amazing girl I was in love with her for 2 days in Pattaya. She did every thing I wanted and I must say that Thai women is the coolest on earth in every aspect. If u really want to have some great sex with the coolest women on earth u must visit Thailand. Hats off for Thai women. (Review # 15353)
  • Pattaya Other Dated Added: Wed Nov 30 2005 Submitted by: Jimmy

     Last week, I was on holiday in Pattaya and came across, quite literally, a wonderful bj bar just up from Soi 12. Lolitas is the perfect place for an afternoon munch, and I would recommend anyone to get blown away by visiting it! (Review # 13199)
  • Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Sat Aug 13 2005 Submitted by: Eroneus

     I am astonished at the price some reporters are paying for hotels in Pattaya! $10 would find a good clean girl-freiendly double with ensuite bathroom, TV,..etc.. ( December 2005)! I also note some reviews of bar-girls in Pattaya are unfavourable - such as being "unskilled" in sexual matters or receiving sexual stimulation unresponsively, etc. .. My own experience was quite opposite! I found my companion vigorous and enthusiastic - to the extent that she accused me of "butterfly" bcause I could not "get it up" as often as she seemed to wish.

    I am older at 60. I knew and respected her profession. Indeed, in my hotel she had visited another client there. She knocked on my door. Come in. . ! She was soo randy! I was IMMENSELY flattered! She stayed all night - no bar fine, as previous client had paid (she did not like him: "He just fuck and cum quick"). I had "taught her to masturbate" - or to feel free to do herself and found she liked to watch me as I liked to watch her (chokwow)... She said this was "different" and she came by this and by cunnilingus (she loved!). If with me all day > shopping or nice breakfast etc.. back to hotel she would lie down and begin to masturbate. "I see you now? Chokwow..!" I would finish her off by cunnilingus and/or finger.  She liked to watch me masturbate.. ! She said (whether true..?) other guys just fuck.

    As mentioned, the surprise visit was because she got randy after plain fuck - so wanted to cum - AND perhaps a night away from her bar - and bar fine paid - relaxed, got money from previous client. .?  BUT I would have been happy for a "Quiet night"! - SHE who was randy... I really did explain I was tired, and happy for her to just sleep, etc... I was maybe just lucky! I have never experienced such a keen woman before... If left to watch TV... through the day, while I read on balcony, I could see her masturbating through the window! She shout for me and want me to masturbate with her... Unfortunately, I could not always manage an erection... but made her "cum".  I am not sure if this is typical of Thai ladies?

    She also liked to see me "cum" - indicate for me to cum on her stomach or neck (why?)... Maybe was just her "thing"? - as at first she liked to watch me pee..! True, she was not at first keen on fellatio - but then got very keen on doing it as she masturbated. I think maybe I was just very, very lucky! The lady is 36 and had only been doing the bar-girl thing for a few months to try it out. We keep contact by occasional e-mail. She has gone home now - either made some money or prefers home. She is very pretty and looks much younger than her years. We had great FUN!!! - Laughed a lot - I REALLY enjoyed her company - not just a sex thing. Real GFE with a bonus!! She seemed happy to be free of the bar and its pressures, so I'd pay 2 or 3 days bar fine for her to be off duty... Even if not spending time with me = meet her sister or freinds .. but she always came to me at night. I did give her money, but not always... not meanness (I hope) - wanted to see if it was just my money, etc.. ?  I would pay her over norm when I did though... and bought her daft wee things... and coffees, etc.  I liked her freinds/colleagues at her bar.  Spent time there in morning - coffee and just a chat... and laugh with her and her freinds. She preferred side street snacks of seafood - or "to go" - take back to my hotel, rather than fancy expensive dinners... I did think of "employing" one of her friends/colleagues to accompany us for sex - but thought not in good taste? = Really not wanting to spoil what seemd a jackpot win for me with her = I liked her a lot - not just for sex! Lots of laughs. A happy month!     (Review # 12440)
  • Bangkok Travel Report Dated Added: Sat May 14 2005 Submitted by: GotSTDinBangkok

     I visited Thailand "Bangkok and Pattaya" for 10 days on a friends advice and what I found on the internet. While Thailand does have thousands of girls (they all look very young for the most). Which made me wonder what age they really were. I find it odd that the ID cards they use can be bought on most street corners in Bangkok for about $1 US. So after asking for ID's to verify age I was still a bit at unease. So I looked for a woman that looked like she was of age.

    Most clubs are so dark you'll have trouble seeing anything (Stretch marks, bad teeth, gut, etc). If you find a girl directly on the street (free-lancer) you will save paying the bar fine but who knows where she has been, In fact I sent 2 away once I got to the hotel and saw them in normal light. One had sores on her lips and the other seemed to have sores between her legs she tried to hide. The scam is they go into the bathroom and get undressed, wrap a towel around them and turn off the lights. I turned the lights back on and took a good look, this girl had some sort of STD. So I sent her off. It was much harder to do this in the MP's as they won't adjust the lights. Prices were less then average $15- $30 for free-lancer street girls, $60 - $90 for MP's and $30 to $80 for Bar girls.

    Regardless of price you pay I found the girls to lack basic sex skills. Most 95% don't give oral (Smoke). When I talk about skills, kissing is rare to basic, these women tend to lay on the bed and allow you to have your way which gets real boring. Perhaps guys that are dying for a girl to even sit in the same room with them enjoy this level of service but for guys that enjoy great, mutual sex Thailand is seriously lacking.

    To boot, I came home with Herpes, Im totally sure I got it in Thailand as I have not been anywhere else in several months. I wore a condom for intercourse but got some bbbbj from one girl as it was rare to get any oral. 12 girls in 10 days, only about 2 were decent, the rest were duds, (lay there and do nothing). OK so you have thousands of girls to select from, no health checks (now I have to buy some expensive precription drug to keep the virus dormant). So I'm still paying for sex in Thailand.

    I spoke to a friend who visited Thailand during the Tsunami and had to check into a Thai hospital, it turns out the Thai Doctors tell him that STD's HIV are rampit in Thailand, lots of tourists contract Herpes and it's very common to get it even if you use a condom for everything. So much for cheap sex, my health is worth more then a few dollars. I've also heard that some tourists end up in Thai prisons for sex with minors, this is not talked about much and kept under wraps but if you you do have a problem with a Thai hooker (no matter how stupid the problem) and the police get involved, she turns out to be under age you are going to prison, even if she has an ID that states she is older. Also NEVER take photos of any women naked as this is considered "Pornography" which is illegal in Thailand.

    The positive is if you like uneducated Asian girls, you can find them cheap, just don't expect good service. They are there with you out of desparation, starving families, no work and the only means to pay bills. Each girl I was with had a different sad story about why she was forced to do this work. The Thai women are different from other starving nations as they don't care to trick you to take you to home. They actually enjoy living in Thailand. It is a cheap place to live and food is cheap too. Many women have a jungle look, not the model looks most men expect but this jungle, indian, ethnic look. I've never seen so many stretch marks either, beware of the dark clubs.

    Oh yes the 28 hour + one way plane trip from the east coast was hell, I missed 2 days work just getting there. No non-stops either. So you need to add the $700 airfare, plus the 4 days combined travel time you lose to yor trip. Hotels are relatively cheap, some won't allow you to bring back women so ask in advance.

    Make sure you have the lights on bright and check the women throughly, especially between the legs. I learned the hard way and went home with a small present I will now have for life. I hear HIV is also a huge problem and from other stats a world leader in HIV. Most Thai hookers don't go to regular hospitals, they have lower class hospitals for those who can't afford the tourist class hospitals. I think you are better off in Malaysia or China as these country's don't draw so many ill men who bring all the STD'sand HIV's in. Remember the girl you bed will mean you have slept with all the men she slept with. THINK TWICE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING WHEN YOU THINK, THAILAND IS ABOUT CHEAP SEX.     (Review # 11446)
  • Bangkok Travel Report Dated Added: Sun Oct 24 2004 Submitted by: Derk Diggler2

    To each his own.

    I visited two countries, Germany (both Rhein Ruhr and Franfurt area) as well as Pattaya and Bangkok. There are merits and advantages to both countries and to truely know what is best, one must see a great variety of clubs and not judge the country by one visit to a few points of interest.

     

    Variety: Germany rules as the flavors are limitless while in Thailand you are limited to Thai's, I am not counting the minute Russians nor the bleaching of hair by Asian gals. The point is the place is 99% Asian. Germany on the other hand has women from all over the world, not to mention also Thai women.

     

    Skill Level: I found all the women I encountered in a 10 day trip to Pattaya and Bangkok, with the exception of the women at the Eden club in Bangkok, to be lacking sex skills. Oral is rare, wanting the lights out is also a huge turn off while in Germany the lights ALWAYS stay on. While in Germany I found the women appear to enjoy sex, I felt that in Thailand it was a job and work for them. A big portion of the women I found just lay there in Thailand and let you do as you wish. While in Germany the women participated. GFE and what it means to us: While some guys seem to think GFE is what you do with a girlfriend, to me it only relates to SEX. This means to me a woman that has no barriers and appears to be into the act just as much as you. BBBJ, DFK and DATY are standard, as why would your girlfriend ban or set barriers for you? I found Thailand to offer me the turn the lights out, get under the covers and snuggle sort of thing while in Germany it's no covers, and even before you get to the bed a great bbbj starts. While I also experienced this myself, many web sites report 50% or less Thai women performing oral as opposed to 100% women in Germany's clubs. What is sex without a good blow job?

     

    You don't go to Germany expecting to take the girl out to go shopping or see a movie like in Thailand. If you're into that sort of thing, then Thailand is your place. Germany is about HOT, QUALITY SEX and as close to a porn star experience as you can get. Facials, anal, BBBJTC, 69, DFK are all available from some women that pride themselves in providing a satisfying experience. In Thailand I found some sweet girls with average to below average skills, but then on the other hand they were into the shopping, dinning thing which is not why I flew 30 hours one way. Another issue by the way is the airfare and time to get to these destinations. From the US you have 24 hours plus to get to Thailand while Germany is 8-15 hours one way. You lose several days going to Thailand and that is money to me. Lodging, food and costs: While I spent more in Germany for the average session the sessions were better in Germany then Thailand, thus the cost was worth it. Food is dirt cheap in Thailand $5-$10 gets you pretty much everything. Probably double that in Germany, but hey I rarely spend money on food as all the clubs I visited included food and drink in the entry.

     

    Lady drinks and bar fines added up in Thailand to my tab. Hotels were double the cost, as in Germany I paid about $40-$60 a night and at the Nana Hotel in Bangkok I paid $20 a night. Prices in Pattaya were a bit higher. Not all sex is cheap in Thailand and clubs and AMPs' can run as high as $75 a session plus most of the women bothered me for a tip even after paying that. In Germany club entry costs run about $40 - $85 but this is for the entire day and once inside most girls cost about $50-$70 for a session. When I figure this into my $400 Germany airfare and my $800 Thailand airfare the math does not make much difference and Thailand costs go up for a place that takes 4 days travel time to get to and fro, plus the added expense of higher airfares.

     

    Conducive to SEX: While in Germany you enter a club, undress, wear a towel and lounge around the club filled with sometimes hundreds of totally naked women. You can observe many having sex in public which gives you an idea of their skill level and what they look like UNDRESSED. This often takes place in day light or well lit areas for all to see. No, you don't have to do it in public it's only an option and on one hand proves the point that sex is no big deal in Europe. While in Thailand, the girls turn out the lights, undress in the bath room and enter with a towel covering them, they slip under the covers and it seems like they are hiding something. I like to see what I'm going to have sex with, STD's and other issues are not to be played with or taken lightly. Thailand has 3 times or more the rate of STD's and HIV as Europe. Go read the stats, Germany has some controls and medical checks while Thailand girls, mainly freelancers, have none at all. Finding GOOD sex in Thailand is prohibitive

     

    The same thing guys think makes it so good, the masses of women. So many that the problem lies in finding even ONE that is good at sex. Any woman that needs money in Thailand can start hooking, while in Germany the good ones prevail and the bad ones don't last long, clubs govern this law. Clubs stand to lose from poor providers. Even in the AMP's of Thailand, when I told th Mamasan about poor service, she offered another girl and no refund. When money changes hands in Thailand it's gone. While in Germany, when I complained I was handed my cash back. I got tired of visiting hundreds of clubs and looking through thousands of faces, keep in mind that you can't see what is under the clothes they wear (except at the gogo clubs). Even at the AMPs' the women hide their bodies and you pay FIRST. In Germany you pay the girl after the session.

     

    I like both countries, Thailand and Germany, but unless I have lots of time Thailand is too far and takes too much effort to find good service. Even at the cheap rates I have only enough juice and time to waste, I don't want to have to try 20 girls to figure out which one is worth my time. Germany is closer and my batting average is 100 times better, I pay more but I get what I want almost every time. I can have women from all over the world in one club. I cann see them all naked (even this is a great show without the sex). The women want you to do them again and again so they merit themselves with providing a service you will remember.

     

    Economies: While Thailand is mostly poverty with a dirt cheap currency, Germany is a western country with standards like the US. The women enter prostitution out of dire need to help their family in Thailand, while in Germany it's mainly for self support. Many of the best workers swing and authentically enjoy sex. They are more picky about customers while a few men pick over thousands of Thai women. The option to reject a customer, no matter how old, ugly, disgusting etc. is less. It's a matter of life or death in Thailand, not in Germany. In Germany some of the best women drive BMW's and Porsche cars while in Thailand they earn a few dollars. Fake ID's can be bought on street corners for less then a song, $1 to be exact. Now how can we trust a young girl who's family is starving that she has not bought one of these $1 ID's and is working at the age of 14? Now I know that Asian women look younger.

     

    As per sake of comparsion if you're going to comment about this, make sure you try some of the latest and greatest clubs in Germany such as Golden Time "Bruggen", Planet Happy Garden, "Oedt" Bernd's "Lichtenberg", Babylon "Elsdorf" Oase, Atlantis and World are not bad but to do a good comparison the best need to be visited. In Thailand I visited Darlings MP, Annes, Eden Club, Walking street and several MP's in Pattaya. Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Theme Cafe. Software, clothes and bootleg items are cheap, women are plentiful, which Germany lacks, but then I don't go to Germany to rip off software or clothing companies. This is all my humble opinion and nothing else but when I read others posts, I felt that another view needed to be heard.

     

     (Review # 10346)
  • Escort Review Dated Added: Fri Dec 05 2003 Submitted by:

    This are the real things from Bangkok!

    1. Girls that you reckoned to be 'a pretty one' are usually damned ugly in local people's eyes.

    2. 1500 Bahts is actually a standard price for a good quality one! Well, I'm talking about a drop-dead gorgeous girl who can do 'anything' you want.

    3. Bar-girls are actually too cheap and low quality.

    4. Go to the place like Poseidon or Utopia, asking for a 'side-line' which are actually professional and then you will see I meant. (Review # 7976)

  • Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Tue Sep 02 2003 Submitted by: The Gator

     Heads up, Gentlemen !!! PRIMER FOR THAILAND (Sorry for the caps) Please read the reviews that say: Don't overpay. (who's the guy that said "2000 to 5000 baht?") Remember, you are there to have fun -- so have fun and don't get stressed. If you appear to be a newcomer, don't worry, there are plenty of "guides" (Ladies, you fool -- NEVER let some guy on the street/in a taxi take you to a "Special Club" or guide you -- NEVER) and the ladies would rather you are on your first day/night so they think you are the first and have not picked anything up (a useful thing to tell her if your hotel room isn't trashed).

    Oh, yeah...always inspect your room after ... & before another time around. A long black hair in the tub or on your hairbrush (or a short one on your razor where she "touched up" a bit) will be spotted by your new paramour -- and she won't like it. Double standard here, but what the heck. Definition: Bar Fine. You pay the house to take the girl out. Same $ for short or long time. Girl must have 10 or 12 bar fines per month or they deduct her pay. If you are paying bar fine "You pay bar fine me?", the mamasan will come over, the girl will get the O.K., then you either pay the girl or the mamasan. Seperate bill from your drinks. By the way, drinking "Cola" is not a problem -- and you don't get drunk. Same price. Soft drinks are served in a tall glass with straw, so the girls know. BUT -- they will like it if, after you have made your decision, you buy both of you a "Bacardi" (the lemon/lime Bacardi drink that comes in a bottle) and tell the girl you like to drink with her but did not want to get "mao" (drunk). She'll appreciate it -- they hate sloppy drunks.

    Never pay more than 500 baht bar fine in a club unless it's a very good club (some places like Patpong Streets have "set" minimums of 600 -- don't sweat the small stuff), so, maybe 600, but the girl will like you more if you negotiate for 500(a little, nicely, then maybe pay the 600 graciously), then, after you have paid the "bar fine" give the girl the extra 100 baht (US$2.50) and tell her she is so sweet that you would rather she have the money than the bar. The mamasan might be pissed at having to only get your 500...but, you ain't going home with the mamasan! Negotiate once, maybe twice -- in a friendly manner...then give in...it is considered rude to be too pushy and you don't want to embarass the lady. Just say: All other places charge 500 and you've bought a few ladies drinks, etc... but be polite.

    After, tell the lady you were trying to save the 100b for her...and then give her 100b you 'saved' even if you paid 600b, tell her you wanted her to get 100b -- you will be rewarded for 'understanding' the system and not being a tightwad with her. It's just the price of a drink, which you will not be buying anyway because she now wants to get you out of there. Give money to a girl in a bar very subtely.

    If it's a barbeer (or beerbar -- it's said and written both ways -- essentially an open-air bar with ladies hanging out -- but technically 'employed')bar fine 300 to 500 max. and for a short time 800 to 1000 MAX for the girl (they'll open at 1,000b to 1,500 depending if you act like a sucker or a gentleman). Could be as little as 500 for a very short time or room-over-the-bar trick. Again, the "classier/younger/etc..." the higher the price, but once, while I was sitting and chatting with one lady, another came up and wanted a drink. Not so cute(had a few miles on her, but still sweet). I said she would have to do something special for a drink. She said let's go out back. I politely asked the lady I was with if she minded ... she reluctantly said 'No', so I gave her a 100b tip and asked her to wait for me, went back to a room and returned 15 min later after having experienced one of the most talented oral techniques I have ever experienced. Bought her the drink...kept on chatting. Ended up going back with lady #1...and slipped 100b to Lady #2 as a tip...just to be nice. She was happy, and the lady I took back was happy, too, after we had a nice lunch and relaxed a bit. She was complimented that I wanted to be with her anyway, even after just being serviced.

    ALWAYS act like you assume you are going back the next day (you will walk down the street and be recognized -- if you are, wave and say Hello and have a beer, you will be treated like a friend if you were a gentleman -- you are under no obligation to hang out longer or take anyone home), and be polite so you will be welcome. Even 4 months later, these ladies have face/name memories that would put Dale Carnegie to shame.

    MAX -- absolute MAX -- for the lady in a very good go-go bar= 1,500b short time or 2,000 for the night. That's max -- top quality. Should be 1,500 long time, sometimes less especially if a meal goes with the deal. If she holds out for more (you are about to or have just paid the bar fine) just invite her to dinner (you are going to eat anyway, right?) Be relaxed and treat her nice...hold her chair out for her. The subject of money will probably not come up again, but if you want to...after dinner, just ask her if she likes you and would she rather go back to the bar or stay with you. That will eliminate any hesitancy on her part.

    I have said goodbye to a lady in the street, walking back from the bar. Just said I did not feel like it because she was not being nice to me, told her she could go back to bar or go home, "Wai-ed" (pressed hands held in front with a slight bow -- fingertip level NEVER above mouth) and said goodbye and walked on. I have said goodbye to a lady who got snippy in the middle of dinner and would not take the hint. Just gave her 200b, told her I was meeting a friend in 15 min and had changed my mind. When she acted hurt and contrite, I explained that she acted different in the bar and she had said she wanted to go with me. But I did not now believe her. Do not let them talk you back into it -- they are great actresses -- just make your decision, give her a tip if necessary to smooth things out and save face and go find someone who "loves" you. A good lesson for her - a public service for the next guy. Aren't you a prince?

    Back to prices. You can always say 1,500, and a 500 tip if she is Number 1 -- the best. Or, if she was great last night, give her a nice tip (slipping into her purse, while she sees you do it of course, is a nice touch -- 300 to 500b the next morning (never tip less than 200b to a girl -- or for bellboy/drink server/etc...never less than 20b -- if it's a 20b bill...if coins, go to 30b or whatever's left in the tray -- or don't tip. Don't tip after each drink, just when you pay your tab -- but if you buy a drink for the drink server after the 2nd, you'll be well regarded), say it is a gift for her mother and father. Chances are you'll get yet another round, especially if you tell her you want to meet her later or that night again. Many girls can "call in sick" and stay with you or meet you later that evening with no bar fine necessary, especially if you were considerate.

    If she gets hesitant / reluctant / rude at any time (even after the shower) Be Polite. Let her know you respect her...and ask her to leave. Tell her that making love is 2 people, not just 1. If she is not happy, you do not want to not be nice to her. You are a happy man and want her to be happy, too. You respect her wishes. Bye-bye. She'll go... but will -- 95% of the time, get the hint and give you the ride of your life. Especially if you are a gentleman about it. Many girls will act a bit rude after the shower because they just want you to hop on-off, but if you are nice at that time... you will be considered a 'friend'.

    If she's really HOT and used to getting 2000b / long time, then that's the ticket price -- don't bicker -- you chose her -- enjoy yourself. If the girl says: "Up to you" -- (they all do) just say: "No, Tee Lat (Darling), Up to YOU" She'll love you for it. Let her know that you want her to WANT to go with you...if not, no problem, let's just have another drink and relax and then I'll go to the next bar. (Remember the 2 people having fun is better than 1 person routine?).

    PATTAYA ::: If in Pattaya, stay at the "Welcome PLAZA Hotel" in Pattaya (NOT the "Welcome Beach Resort Hotel" in Jomtien Beach.) A bit worse-for-wear, but very nice 4 star hotel that expects you to be accompanied. Resort-style pool, all amenities. 2 blocks from beach and 'walking street' where bars are. $650b / night = US$15 or so a night. Register alone...then go have fun. Have fun. Be a gentleman. Never argue, just be gracious.

    If faced with hostility (and this can happen VERY quickly if a Thai feels put upon/ripped off -- it ain't always the Land of Smiles -- watch expressions -- if they get angry, you can tell, stop what you are doing and leave) bow slightly and get out. You will not -- ever -- win this battle. Put it down to a lesson learned for going to a '2nd floor club' and getting charged for the 'floor show' or acting like a fool in the first place. I have seen many "farangs" invite hostility for bitching about 100 b = US$2.50 OK.... now, my friend, it's : "Up to you" Have fun. (Review # 7457)

  • Travel Report Dated Added: Wed Oct 16 2002 Submitted by:

    Hi gents.heres my 2 cents for what its worth. First my background is 2 years as a resident of t land mostly pattaya.in addition ive made 4 trips all 4to 6 weeks at a pop. Just returned 4 days ago from 5 weeks. the good news is that I spent a total of 3 nights in Bangkok the rest in pattaya.bangkok pales next to pattaya from my view in virtually every way. bar s in the kok r higher the expected rate is at least 2 times greater often 3.the kok has no ocean hotel rates higher all costs greater across the board! The world class pollution is free. ~~

    ~~while scams are rare the probability is greater.pattaya...is the top of the mountain...u can get a clean adequate 350 and up hotel, beaches way to many girls.10 percent of your trip in Bangkok is plenty. I notice a more savvy culture in Bangkok that I find less appealing. I read of short times of 1000 baht and laugh[Bangkok . while scams are rare the probability is greater.pattaya...is the top of the mountain...u can get a clean adequate 350 and up hotel, beaches way to many girls.10 percent of your trip in Bangkok is plenty. ~~

    ~~I notice a more savvy culture in Bangkok that I find less appealing. I read of short times of 1000 baht and laugh[Bangkok]...hell in pattaya the chance of getting turned down all night for that is not likely.u may smirk at 2000 baht difference for all night. I go there a lot and stay lengthy.....take it from a me pattaya smears Bangkok in every sense~~ (Review # 6294)

  • Bangkok Massage Parlor Dated Added: Tue Oct 15 2002 Submitted by: Peterpan

     Dear Readers,~~

    ~~I went to a new place in Bkk, number one, they call it a gentlemen's club, but it is a really nice bar where you can play pool and drink, have fun with the girls and they have 5 (five) floors with rooms. I first had some fun downstairs and went up with 2 stunners...... I went back the next day and did it again. ~~

    ~~For me a real number one !!~~It is located in Sukhumvit soi 1, cannot miss.~~~~Hope you can enjoy like me....~~ (Review # 6286)

  • Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Sat Aug 10 2002 Submitted by: Gweilo

     I have been a fairly regular visitor to Pattaya over eight years. The sheer number of women available here is overwhelming, but with so many it is inevitable that the average standard is not very high. I have to do a lot of bar-hopping before I find one I like, unlike Nana Plaza in Bangkok.

    I must say that some of you guys who talk about ''college girls'' are being a little naive. They know that's what you want to hear! Thai girls who go to college genuinely (as opposed to a casual school for learning English) are from middle-class backgrounds and cannot be found in massage parlours and go-go bars! Maybe in some of the upmarket places where Japanese pay B10000 for a girl....but no, even there its pretence. The girls available to you for B1000-B2000 are simple girls from the rice-fields of North-Eastern Thailand, not college co-eds!

    There are lots of good cheap hotels in Pattaya. I like the Flipper House on Soi 7 and the Flipper Lodge on Soi 8. They are both newly refurbished and the rooms are great. Both have swimming pools on the roof. B700-B1200 depending on season.

    There are so many bars, and so many women its almost impossible to single out individual places. The go-go bars along Walking Street (South Pattaya) are the glitsiest, and have some good-looking girls. However a lot of the customers are Asian guys from Japan, Korea, Taiwan or Singapore, and a lot of the action is short-time and business-like.Especially true on Soi Diamond.The bars on Soi Pattayaland are OK, and have nice short-time rooms for you punters who already have a little woman at home! Try Planet Rock.My favourite go-go bar is Classroom 2000, way down at Soi 2. The girls are not always the best-looking, but if you can find a cutie she will be friendly and nice company-no short-timers here. Its a fun place. Expect to pay B1000 for short time from go-go bars, B1500-2000 for all night, plus the barfine.

    Taking girls from beer bars is usually cheaper, and some people like to pick girls with their clothes on. However, you can never be sure what will be revealed when the clothes come off! There are hundreds of such bars. I like the ones along Soi 8.There is a fun atmosphere along here. The quality is generally lower in beer bars, but girls who are brand-new to the business usually begin in beer bars, so if you look around you can sometimes find some real fresh cuties.

    There are lots of massage parlours around, especially in North Pattaya around Soi 2. My objection to these places is that you pick out a woman, fully-clothed, from behind a glass window. You don't really know what you are getting, and by the time you find out, you have already paid!

    Enjoy Pattaya. I personally prefer the girls in Nana Plaza, but you haven't got the resort atmosphere there. One thing I don't like about Pattaya is that increasing numbers of yobbish British guys (I am British!) are finding their way there, complete with football shirts, tattoos and shaved heads. These guys don't know how to behave in a civilised way, and don't treat the girls properly. It tarnishes our reputation. I'm sorry to say that when I go to Pattaya, I always tell the girls I am Australian.     (Review # 5916)
  • Travel Report Dated Added: Thu Jul 11 2002 Submitted by: sexaholic

     I lived in Bangkok for four years, reluctantly leaving in 2001. I still make several visits each year. After reading your reviews it is obvious different people have different opinions of the same places.~~In Bangkok the German beer garden on Sukhumvit Soi 11 is good, any time form 2pm until midnight by which time most of the girls have gone on the street or to Thermae. ~~

    ~~~~~~Yes, Thermae is now forced to close at 2am but as I am usually out of there with my companion for the night before midnight, what do I care.~~Many reviewers have said bad things about lady boys. True of those on the street but for a change try one from one of the two bars in NEP, Obsession and the other on the second floor whose name I can't recall. They will not cheat you, are frequently more beautiful than the true girls and definitely give the best BJs.~~I saw one reviewer gushed about Pim from TQ1 in Pattaya. As a fellow hasher I can back his opinion. She spent three days with me in fall 2001 and she is the best.~~~~

    ~~~~Disease, I can honestly say in my four years in Bangkok and frequent trips back since, I probably only used a condom less than twenty times, and I must have had at least 800 different girls in that time. Had clap once, nothing else and I have been tested for HIV several times, including recently, and I'm negative.~~Maybe I am just lucky but Bangkok and Pattaya are my kind of towns.~~     (Review # 5738)
  • Other Dated Added: Sun Jun 09 2002 Submitted by: JJ

     Greetings,~~I just got back Tuesday 6/4/02 from my annual trip to Thailand. The trip was great. I highly recommend checking out the following venues for meeting beautiful and nice Thai girls for an afternoon or evening of companionship.~~

    ~~In Bangkok: ~~
    ~~1. Angel Disco located in the Nana Hotel. I stayed in this hotel on this trip as well as on my last trip. The disco is free of charge and gets packed by 11PM on weeknights and weekends. I have met several young attractive ladies on this trip who are college students and office girls, free lancing on the side. All were very friendly and attractive. Dancing and drinking with them allows you to get to know them in a hassle-free environment. I dated several of them.~~~~Be aware of the lady boys, I saw two of them for the first time at Nana Disco. I have been to this disco many times over the years.~~~~Because this is a disco, there is no bar-fine to take out the ladies. All you have to do is negotiate the price, 1,500 bahts short time and 2,000 bahts longtime. If she is nice and give good service you should tip anywhere from 100-300 bahts.~~~~

    ~~2. Nana Plaza located across the street from the Nana Hotel. I recommend checking out the open beer bars on the first and second floors of the plaza. I met a jewel, young Thai Girl, sweet, sensual, and very gentle and soft. She is from Chaiyapom Province, a college girl. I took her long time.~~~~Stay away from Playschool go go in Nana Plaza. I got hassled by the girls and was treated very rudely.~~

    ~~3. Soi Cowboy, go to Long Gun Go-Go. Good selection of girls and managers are very friendly. Good music. Great atmosphere. Laid back, hassle-free.~~

    ~~4. Park entertainment complex, Deliah's massage on the eight floor is very good. This complex is located on the corner of Soi Nana and Makassan Road. Large selection of nice looking Thai girls in a lounge setting. Friendly, courteous management will assist you in your selection.~~~~Stay away from Cupidy's massage parlor on the ground floor of the same complex. Medium number of girls in a fishbowl setting. High pressure management. I walked in and out within five minutes. The girls there were average looking and were not very friendly.~~

    ~~5. Cleopatra's massage parlor in Bangkok is great. This is the best one. There is a large selection of girls from the fishbowl, sideline girls, and super models. The management is quite hospitable. There is sushi bar, restaurant, and live entertainment. The rooms are large, spacious, and clean. The entire facility is large, ten floors.~~~~I took a sideline girl, for two hours. She was very young, slender, and attractive. She is a college girl. She provided great service and spoke good English. ~~

    ~~In Pattaya:
    ~~~~1. Super Baby Go Go located on Soi BJ off Walking Street in Pattaya. By far the best go go bar. Good music, large selection of good looking girls dancing away in bikinis and high heels. Friendly managers. The bar was jammed packed the night I visited. The front of the bar posts all the pictures of the girls.~~I took out a stunner for a short time. She was great.~~

    ~~2. Sabai Dee body massage located in north Pattaya, on second road. I had a Thai soapy banana with two girls at once for two hours. It was terrific. I was in heaven. Both girls were friends from college and were doing this on the side. The selection of fishbowl girls is very good. The managers are a little pushy. Go before 6PM and you will get a discount rate. If you go after, you will pay standard rate.~~~~Enjoy.~~~~     (Review # 5578)
  • Pattaya Escort Review Dated Added: Mon Feb 25 2002 Submitted by: kj

     I just returned from Pattaya, had the time of my life. I was practically raped by all the girls, the woman are beautiful and very nice. I did spend three days in Bangkok and made a big mistake, the woman have attitudes and are very expensive. In Bangkok they see American and they see $, everyone is trying to screw you in Bangkok also very polluted. Next time I will pass Bangkok and go straight to Pattaya. Pattaya is a nice town with the beach and beautiful woman. ~~~~ kevin~~ (Review # 5090)
  • Pattaya Escort Review Dated Added: Sun Jan 13 2002 Submitted by: Phil

     I can't understand what all the fuss is about. I've been living in Pattaya for three years now and it's gone steadily down hill. I've travelled throughout SE Asia, and quite frankly, there are better places than this in value-for-money terms. ~~

    The thing which has finally done it for me is the latest government clean up of the region. Bars now all have to shut by 2 o-clock, and they've stopped the cheap free-lansers on the beach.

    ~~If it's your first time in the region, and if it's love and marriage you're looking for, then it's definitely worth a try - just be prepared to spend a whole lot of money.~~ (Review # 4899)

  • pattaya Street Action Dated Added: Sun Jul 01 2001 Submitted by: RAY REDDICK JR

     Let me tell you, the Pussycat is the shit! I got head from this one girl (she could suck a golf ball through a garden hose). After nearly 20 seconds I almost blew my volcano! If I actually lived there I wouldn’t need my lousy wife. If you’re in Thailand, visit this place! (Review # 3896)
  • Bangkok Travel Report Dated Added: Thu May 31 2001 Submitted by: Markvegas

     Hello all, I just returned from my first Thailand trip. I have been to the Philippines~~3 times before visiting cebu, manila, and mostly angeles city...I really like AC but~~Thailand blows the Philippines away. I only spent first and last nights in Bangkok, but~~will spend a few more days there next time. the first night a cab driver took me to a~~massage parlour type place( I arrived after midnight)since most places were closing, he~~said.I took a lady back to my hotel(Windsor suites,soi20 good location, and a suite for~~$40)for a total of about 2500 baht. she was ok for my first of my trip, and the next day I~~got up early and caught a nice aircond bus from the ekamai bus terminal for 90 baht to~~pattaya beach.I stayed at the 'welcome plaza for$30 a night, nice rooms and pool. also a~~good location within walking to the beach and bars.

    ~~~~

    I was a regular at classroom1, cats, bubbles,lipstick and all of the ones on~~pattayaland 2. I tried the short time upstairs, Jacuzzi bath followed by great sex, a few~~times, but mostly bar fined a lady(or two) for the night at an avg. cost of 2100 baht per~~girl. I found them to be fun, very attractive and eager to please.I am 42, beer bellied~~and average looks and all the girls treated me very well. I work in the casino biz and~~usually spread the wealth with the girls.
    ~~
    ~~I did go a bit overboard spending $200-300 per day,drinkin and fuckin, but what the hell,~~you only live once. I always buy at least two girls drinks in every bar and it is not~~uncommon to have 4 or five girls sitting with me, kissin, fondling each other, havin a~~blast. these girls remember the nice guys and whenever I walked into a bar I usually~~received a very warm welcome. hell, I can spend $200 in some titty bar in 'vegas in an~~hour and leave with nothing but a wet spot. so,remember guys, these girls deserve a lot~~more than we give them, so be nice when I Thailand and tip well. I gave a girl a $20 tip~~for a $10 two hour Thai massage(non sexual) at a place on the beach road, it was well~~worth it! I will be goin back in late oct. or early jan. and cannot wait, see ya in~~pattaya then!!     (Review # 3641)

  • Bangkok & other Travel Report Dated Added: Fri Jan 26 2001 Submitted by: Darren

     This was my fifth trip to Thailand and a very enjoyable one... one day I shall buy a house and go to live there...for those who haven’t visited the country I can assure you all that it is a fantastic place for a holiday, and not just because of the beautiful woman...think about the heat, the beaches, the food, the friendliness of the Thai people and you’re getting closer. However, as most people reading this page are not interested in cultural studies I shall get on with other details...

    BANGKOK: I stayed in Bangkok at the Miami Hotel on Sukhumvit Road Soi 13. For 550 Baht a single room, a little run-down but in a good location for night life. They have a small terrace where you can catch the sun and also a small pool to cool down in. The day-time receptionists are surly and unfriendly, but in the night time the service is a lot better. You check a girl in and she leaves her ID at reception, at a cost of 20 Baht for this work!

    The Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) is still as popular as ever...plenty of beautiful, available women. Upstairs in the two Hollywood bars there are some hot lesbian shows (it’s the same girls who do the show in both places...they alternate between the two in the course of the night), the usual sex shows (fish in the vagina, shooting balloons etc). The hostesses are good-looking and friendly...I paid a 500 Baht barfine and went upstairs for short-time sex (one hour) in the rooms there (300 Baht/hr)...I gave the girl 1000 Baht for her hard work...well she did fuck and sex me...

    Another night I found a nice girl in the Voodoo Bar (nice girls outside and inside there is a go-go bar) and paid her barfine (500 Baht) and went to see the Hollywood shows with her. She was such a sweet thing and fun in the bed that I was a repeat offender the following night as well. She spent the night with me both times but went home to rest in the mornings, after breakfast together. I gave her 1000 Baht both times... When I went to the bar the following night she was chatting to somebody who had paid for a drink for her so being impatient I went upstairs (NEP is on three floors) to see if what had been written about the Rose Bar is true...thank God it is...you can get a blowjob for 500 Baht in the bar...the girls are not models, but even an ordinary Thai is not bad looking. All of them come from the North-East of Thailand. As I had traveled around almost all of the NE on previous visits to Thailand I know a few words of the Isaan dialect which means even more fun with the girls. By the way the girls all want lady-drinks which are small glasses of cola or something that they will drink quickly (at 80 Baht a glass) so don’t reckon you can be in and out for a blowjob and pay 500 Baht...you will have to chat, buy them drinks and give a tip of course...but what the hell they suck well...it was so much fun I had to go back a second night as well. For those of you interested in the details the girls will make sure you are in a dark corner of the bar, maybe away from the other customers...one will suck and another will stand in the way so anyone entering the bar doesn’t realise what is going on straight away...the other girls will maybe see what is going on from the small stage...your girl (or girls if you so wish) will suck / hand-job you until you cum, not on her face but onto the floor away from hitting anything! The two times I was in the Rose Bar there wasn’t so much going on and only 3-4 other customers...I seemed to be the only one getting the treatment but who cares!

    I also paid a couple of visits to the time famous Thermae Bar...a living institute of Thai women...one of the mamasans from NEP had called it the crocodile bar...on account of the ugly girls...but I have to disagree...there were enough good-looking girls. Remember they are freelance, which means they don’t have health-checks regularly like the girls from the bar complexes do. Anyhow after eventually finding the bar hidden in the corner I did a circuit of the bar chatting to girls. The first time I visited I didn’t feel that tempted so I left it at that. The second time I found a nice girl who I took back to the hotel for a short-time 1000 Baht fuck.

    On my last day in Bangkok I had to take a taxi to the airport at 2 a.m. so I slept a little in the afternoon and then in the evening did a bar tour timing my stop at Annie´s Massage Parlour for midnight. It’s located between Sois 2-4 on Sukhumvit in the parking lot for the Ra-Jah hotel. A sort of mixed experience here...the Thai barman speaks English with an incredible cockney accent, due to his many years in London...he will help you out with your selection so don’t forget to give him a tip! The girls were a mixed bunch, not too many stunners in my opinion. Chose a pretty one and paid the 1000 Baht room fee (for 2 hours) , by the way the girl only gets 200 Baht from this. She must be paid separately...you have to decide how much to give her...I recommend about 1000 Baht tip in that case. Well the massage and suck and fuck after fantastic and certainly left my happy enough to have a good sleep on my flight afterwards. As I said a mixed experience...they could have a better selection of girls and the rooms could be better...a toilet would not be too much to ask for in a room where you spend two hours... My experience was good, on account of a nice girl and it wasn’t expensive either but next time I think I will try a different massage parlour....

    KO SAMET: This small, but very beautiful island is a couple of hours bus ride and then a 30 minute boat trip away from Bangkok. Whilst it can get overrun with Thai tourists at the weekends and on holidays otherwise it is a quiet place. A mixture of young backpackers and return-Thai travellers who don’t feel the need or don’t have the time to travel so far as Ko Samui or Phuket etc. Whilst there are only a few regular beach bars and so on I did make one discovery...on the road from Hat Sai Kaew beach to the Ban Dan pier there is a small bar called Samet Bar (how original!). A handful of girls work there...I think it´s more or less a freelance place as I didn’t pay any barfine. Drinks are cheap and cold...

    I met a nice girl from Buriram (no names included...I will keep them secret for myself!) and went with her after to the Naga Bar for a drink or two. The Naga Bar is located on the second beach...the first and most popular beach is Hat Sai Kaew and right next to it is Ao Hin Khok. Fortunately I had my beach hut there (at Tok´s Little Cabins...prices 200, 250 and 300 Baht depending on how close you are to the beach...not luxury but very rustic...why should I pay 1000 Baht+ for an air-con cabin..it´s not necessary) which made it very easy to take this lovely Isaan (from NE of Thailand) girl up to my room. She stayed the night and we had sex just once then went to sleep together. In the morning I gave her 500 Baht which she was happy with. If we had more sex I would have given her 1000 Baht or something...no need to rip the girls off. She was a typical shy, new to the scene girl...treat them right and you will have fun...don’t expect a shower together or having the light on the first time you are together... Anyhow that was my first night on Samet...the second I ended up missing my new friend in between bars and by that time I had more than enough Thai whisky in my blood so I flopped into bed alone. Sadly I had to leave the following day...

    PATTAYA: Heaven or hell? For me it was neither...the beaches were none too special and overcrowded in any case, so one to the other details...~~ I stayed in the Apex Hotel, located more or less central in South Pattaya...the room was a bargain at 500 Baht with air-con, TV, hot water, comfy bed etc...a good breakfast buffet for 80 Baht as well... When you return with a girl they will keep her ID card at reception until she leaves, at no extra cost.

    The first night I discovered Dave’s GB British Bar...good to watch all the football if you like British football (as I do) in between games of pool and chatting with the friendly girls...I took one back to my room which cost me 200 Baht bar-fine (cheap huh?) and 700 Baht for the girl...shame she didn’t want more than a short time shag and decided to go home...oh well I should have talked to her before and asked her...

    After various bars on my second night I ended up at the Tim Beer Bar...inside is go-go dancing and outside TVs and a small bar...ended up taking a girl back to the hotel where this one stayed the night and cost me 1000 Baht (the more upmarket the bar the more the girl will cost...this was not an expensive place...some of the go-go dancers will go short-time for 2000 Baht or more).

    The third night in Pattaya I just did a bar tour with no take away (sometimes I just want to have a good sleep), enjoyed my chats with the bar-girls but managed to resist temptation and the easy route of taking anything on offer back to the hotel... But two consecutive nights without a girl in Pattaya would have been criminal...so the next night I did a bar-tour, ended up at Classroom A-Go-Go (the girls are supposedly dressed up in school uniform...a strange one at that though)...after the place closed I went with one to the bar/disco (Hard Rock...not an official one of course!) and then to one of Pattaya´s mega-discos (Hollywood disco) where I had some fun with the girl...we both got drunk which upon returning to the hotel meant both our performances were below standard! Well I had a hangover the next day but at least I didn’t have to work! The girl left in the early afternoon and I was on the soft-drinks that night...my last in Pattaya...~~     (Review # 3060)
  • Pattaya Strip Club Review Dated Added: Wed Dec 06 2000 Submitted by: Anon

     I had the pleasure of visiting Pattaya after reading great reviews on the place on this board at the end of October, 00. It is an exciting place with great entertainment. Girls were very friendly, the ones I had. I travelled from North America to get there, and I would go back there any day, as the girls are great and the food is good and all at very cheap price compared to here.

    However, I had one disappointing experience with Cats club. As my skin color is somewhat brown, can be passed for as a person from middle east or India. I was surprised to see that clubs such as Cats could have a racist policy, that is whites only allowed in the bar. I even spoke to the manager but to no avail. It was surprising to see that the manager who was either European or American could have such a narrow mind. Besides that experience everything went well... For all you guys out there enjoy yourself down there and make sure you use the Rubber.     (Review # 2827)
  • Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Thu Sep 14 2000 Submitted by: Hawkeye

     I just returned from Pattaya, Thailand. All I want to say is for the money that everyone is spending in the~~bay area. save it for a 2-week trip to Thailand. Let me say that you can go to a massage parlor and for $50.00 US, you will get 90 mins of heaven. They will bath with you in a tub, wash you, then give you a soapy body-to-body massage, then wash you off again. After this they will dry you off, have you lay down on a bed and proceed to massage you (naked). At this point if you have already agree on the price~~you will have the best sex ever.

    As for the street scene, all you have to do is make eye contact and 90% of the time if you smile and are nice talking they will talk with you and take from there. All you have to do is be "nice", treat the girl with respect and she will do the same. As for the price you are looking at $25-$50 for a short time or long time. (Short time = 1-3 hrs, Long time = All night.

    Go-Go Clubs: See reviews from freelances.com, pattayaland.com The action makes North Beach-SF look tame. This is only a brief review of Thailand, I don't brother with the so call action of the Bay Area. I just save my money and go to the "Land of Smiles     (Review # 2370)
  • Bangkok and Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Wed Apr 21 1999 Submitted by: Norm Average

     One night I entered Camelot go-go bar in Patpong, one of the King's Group enterprises. On stage I saw Khung, 21, and via a waitress I asked her to sit down with me for a lady-drink.

    Soon the girl arrived at my table. She told me she was a beginner and had only been in the business for five days, having had only one customer two nights earlier. We agreed that I should come by the next night and buy her out for a ""long time"", an all night stand.

    It did not work out well. I had planned this to be a night of careful, conscious sin, a really luxurious sex experience with a nice Oriental girl. I brought a bottle of Johnny Walker Black and ordered soda water and a bucket of ice to the room at Pavilion Place, Patpong's biggest whore hotel. But by and large it all came to disappointment, though an interesting one.

    Khung (the name means ""shrimp"") proved to be a genuine product of Patpong. Throughout the time she was with me, she told me lies in a
    tempo that made it impossible for her to remember them herself. She was (by jeezus) no beginner. She had been working at different King's Group bars since she was 15. Yes, she had started at Camelot about a week before we met, but she had been living as a gogo girl the last many years.

    With her hoarse ziggies-and-alcohol voice she stated that she had had a three months break from her carrier - ""I didn't do anything but sleep and eat."" An hour later the truth came out: She had been away for a drug cure at a hospital for her cocaine addiction. And here's her own stated reason in case anyone believes her motivation was one of concern for her own health:
    ""I cannot make business when I have to leave customer every two or three minutes to go to bathroom to snort.""

    And her way of dealing with this man, little ole me? After the initial
    thank-yoo's her every effort was to delay, postpone and dodge our deal - and to squeeze out extra doe.

    Already on the way from the bar to the hotel room she extracted a small gift from me - a t-shirt bought at one of the many stalls in the open air market of Patpong. Now I believe she was testing me for naivity.

    Hardly had we closed the door to the room before she succeeded in making me go for a taxi ride somewhere in another part of Bangkok in order to bring 1000 baht (my money, of course) to someone. I did not believe her story about a younger sister in financial need (""I don't want her to be working like this"") but I accepted anyways. I probably wanted to keep a good relation with this sinful darling girl.

    I did however insist on going with her. At first she wanted to slip out in town on her own and then return (""it will only take half an hour""). So we went out together and hired a taxi. (Which, interestingly, was not easy for her. The first two drivers turned her down. She told this was because she is a prostitute.)

    When we arrived at her destination she acted a bit strangely. She asked the taxi to wait for us, and we walked down a rather dark alley, she leading, looking anxiously to all sides, me following. She persuaded me to wait outside the house at the bottom of the lane, and she disappeared inside. Never gave any explanation after. But at least she came back.

    We returned to the rented room. Now she became eager to go out for a meal. In fact I was hungry too, so I agreed. After all, why not start the pleasure with a good Thai dinner?

    Some few yards down the pavement outside the hotel she met a friend, a young woman who seemed to be Afro-Thai, maybe a child of the Vietnam war. She was a doorkeeper at some nearby bar, she said. And she immediately invited her to go along to the restaurant. I did not protest, because I know that this is common practice among Thais. But I did resent the new company.

    The restaurant was located in Patpong. I believe the whores get a commission for taking customers there. The food was fine, but the two women were not nice company. They concentrated exclusively on each other, and at a point I got the notion that Khung was exchanging loud, spiteful remarks in Thai with a colleague at another table - humour directed at me and the other farang customer.

    Now the hour had got real late. The meal came to an end, and the bill was settled (you guessed right: by me). On the way back Khung disappeared into a big 24-hour supermarket, seemingly wanting to buy something. I waited outside and had the opportunity to watch Patpong at closing hour. This is finest hour for picking up prostitutes here: A man standing idle gets invitation from all sides. I had a delicious smile and a ""hello!"" from a real beauty standing at the opposite pavement. Maybe I should simply have taken her to the room and left
    Khung to the supermarket.

    More shopping. Khung stopped by a stall and took a long time negotiating the purchase of some imitated perfume. Now I had gotten angry. I turned my back on it all and started considering the taxis. Should I go back to my headquarters and forget about my happy expectations?

    She sensed what was on my mind and quickly came to my side. ""Do you want to go home?"" I nodded. She ended the perfume deal and made me pay again. But she seemed to worry if I really was going to slip away from her with the three thousand baht we agreed upon.

    We ended up quarreling in the room. She answered my complaints with feigned anger and a ""broken hearted girl"" scene so theatrical it would get her expelled immediately from acting school. - I went to the bathroom for a leak. When I came back she was still lying on the bed, hiding her head in dramatic pose, showing off her sorrow for being accused of being less than straight forward with this farang.

    But you can get away with a lot of bad stuff when you are good looking. Khung is beautiful - still. But her life is at a downwards slide. She thinks of little else but the skin on her face which is covered with little pimples, a surface like orange peel. A close look reveals four-five band-aids of transparent material giving her the appearance of a repaired doll. She complains of pains in her abdomen - ""because I not make love with man long time my pussy become small. Now hurt."" She screws up her eyes and pouts her beautiful lips, putting up a pain-filled face.

    At a point we were talking peacefully in the hotel room while I drank beer and whisky. In a way I liked her best at this point even if there was little to symphatize in what she said.

    ""I have man four year, English. Then he fuck with my best friend, I leave. I hurt for him, wanted to go back, even if I said no, I not like you anymore."" (Yes, I feel sad for her while I am writing this.)

    ""I pray to my Buddha, Rama V. I say to him: If you bring me customer, I buy you one flower. He like Johnny Walker Black whisky. Cigarette he like Marlboro. I know everything he like, my Rama V.""

    ""I only like Corona beer [stressing the last syllable: Coro-náh]. I like Coca Cola [Co-cáh Co-láh]. I like choko-láh.""

    As I read this, I see her words may seem touchingly naive, and in a way they were just that when I heard her speak them. At the same time they gave the impression of a depraved and totally materialistic girl who cannot even imagine a god who has anything else on his mind than personal gain and consumer goods with snob appeal.

    We had intercourse. She gave me a blowjob and wiped her mouth after - there was blood stains on the towel. Lately her lips have begun to bleed after blowjobs. I silently thanked the rubber industry for its very existence. I kissed the fine, smooth breasts, schoolgirl's breasts, the small belly that she maintains has grown ""fat"" lately. I studied the fantastically well-shaped face with its round, soft features, the full, rounded lips that suffers the nemesis of her trade, the beginning of the end to this young whore.

    She kept her eyes closed while I looked at her. Then we turned off the light and went to sleep, she cuddling near me, drifting into quiet sleep with the deep, soft breathing of a child.

    - Next time I take a Patpong girl for a ""long time"" I am going to prepare myself for a subtle clash of wills. I'll insist she stay together with me as promised. No expeditions out. If she suggests a restaurant dinner, fine, but no third parties will get involved. And I will give a politely stated, but also firm no to any shopping for gifts apart from a few inexpensive items. And I will be
    ready to drop her if she tries to evade her part of the deal.     (Review # 241)
  • Bangkok and Pattaya Travel Report Dated Added: Tue Jan 26 1999 Submitted by: Anonymous

     Thailand is fun but remember that these people are very poor and not a lot of hope for advancement.
    Watch your wallet always and don't ride in a taxi unless you have Thai people with you or hotel security gets one for you.
    Have a good time but don't flash cash or clothes. Sex unlimited 24 four hours a day seven days a week. Beautiful and caring women.     (Review # 240)
  • Bangkok and Pattaya Other Dated Added: Sun Nov 01 1998 Submitted by: Robby

     Bangkok, Thailand as of October 10th, 1998 through - my stay at various hotels
    until October 22nd 1998 is still happening. Thermae Coffee House, located
    by Soi 15 Sukhumvit, at 2:00am every day of the week attracts hundreds of
    fine women ranging from 17 to 40 years old, mostly 20's though. Nana Entertainment
    Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong (both gay and straight) are also all continuing
    to prosper. Prices did go up an average of about % to P , but you can
    still hook up and have her for free, if you play your cards right. I paid
    1100 baht by private car, to get to Pattaya, and things there are also the
    same. Girls have changed, since my visit last May 97, but couple familiar faces
    do still roam. The main road, beach road, is being torn apart for sewer pipe
    replacement, and Marine Disco no longer has stairs, but a escalator. For
    freebies and awesome dance (my thing to do, that is) you should arrive
    at Marine Disco I at 2:00am, stay until closing - (4:30am), then proceed
    to Marine Disco II, which is 2 blocks away (ask a chick to take ya there), that closes
    around 7am. There is soooo much to do, do it now. Be aware -Bangkok Clubs
    all suck, as far as I am concerned - do not waste your money on Hollywood Disco,
    NASA or any other well established joint. At Nana Plaza, go see Nana Hotel Disco, located at
    the lobby for some freelancers, etc. At Patpong, be aware of the high end Japanese
    area, very expensive 2500 baht + for a quickie. Taxi drivers still persist on a
    fee, other than the 35 baht standard meter fair (plus destination), so be careful of around the
    block rip-off's. Everything is mostly around Sukhumvit main road, including
    American restaurants, and shit like that. Sleep until 10pm, unless you like
    to drinky @ 2pm ... :) Later ..Go Navy (EX-Navy now!)
    -Rob     (Review # 239)
 

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