SEX in shanghai SUCKS. U have to spend a lot of money just to talk to the girls and it is a no no for SEX in your hotel or apartment. Just don't search for FUNNY looking (pretty girls that looks like a prosti or something like that).

JUST look for a normal lady that look like she just came from the office went to clubs or bars. They usually can speak a little english (at least) and some of them is really works in stable position. (that is why they can afford to go to clubs and bars). Talk to them, no need to buy them drinks (coz they can buy for themselves - they are rich! RMB5000-8000 per month!)

~~After surveying and hunting, I managed to get a girl, Xiao Mei who was willing to do everything for the whole nite for US$150. I bargained and she finally accepted for US$80. ~~~~She has big boots for a Chinese woman, she enjoyed every moment of mine sucking her tits.~~Her bj was fantastic; I came in her mouth without condom.~~She told me that her husband was not able to satisfy her sexual desires, and she need a white guy's dick which is bigger to whet her appetite.~~

~~ In the day it is business and in the night I like more of the white reflections. I have been in China now for just more than a month. I tried the Barber shops – but was not impressed. I tried the KO’bars and got tired of Chinese off-key songs; I tried the massage parlors and felt like shit. So what to do? These pretty women are just too much for eye candy alone. See, I am not pretty – luckily not bald yet – quite tall, thick fat ass and getting too close to 50. ~~

~~~~It all started beginning January. I was booked into a well known hotel, the garden type in Nanjing. Was really tired, called for massage and said I want real healthy massage. They send this petite little pretty thing up to my room. Said beauty knocked a few places and then said to turn over, she pressed two or three points and came up with the offer – while playing with the snake, in my underpants, to do a titty-fuck for RMB400. I did not want this, but saw I was not going to win with this one, so I gave in. My god, I can sometimes control and stay long but the bitch milked me out in 8 minutes flat! The most expensive hand job I had in more than eight years – RMB580 (including the ‘supposed’ massage for 180)~~

~~Oh, gentlemen, be gentle. Be nice, smile, treat and respect the pretty women and you will be surprised how many girlfriends you can add to your address book. The normal Chinese treat their women like shit and the ladies are often shocked when I treat them with a real smile and little things like holding a door open for her. After all, she is a woman. She is not used to things demanded by the Western bitches, and because they really react and appreciate small thing here – I am in Love with Asian women. ~~

~~Guys, what are you thinking of? She gives you a price, you give her a price of anywhere between 10 to 15% and upwards of her price and the bidding begins! If you don't bargain then you pay premium rates and the Chinese chicks shake their heads all the way to the bank, thinking how stupid foreigners are!~~

~~ That's all we really need letting them think we are all stupid and then they can drive the price up.~~Ok, let's look at a few particular hot spot and not spots. Admittedly I prefer to get my action for free from willing ladies who just like sex, but for someone who is here for a very short time, that option may not be open to you. ~~

~~California Club (aka Park 97) is good place to go for free action on Fridays and Saturdays but the rest of the week it is full of pros and the idea that they will try to sell to you is that you give them 100 Kuai (Yuan RMB) and they will return with your drink and your change, ready to get down and dirty with you. However the reality is they pocket your money and you never see them again. ~~~~

~~~~Bar Girls - their job is to solicit overpriced drinks from you and the bar often pays them a small percentage to get them to get you to buy drinks for them (usually mostly sodas). They usually do not go home with the customers and often leave many a frustrated customer at the front door of the establishment. If you insist upon them drinking jenda (means "real") drinks with them and check the drink to make sure that it is real, you can often get them fairly drunk and they just may go home with you, but nothing is for sure. ~~

~~Date Girls - these are Bar Girls who may take the relationship farther (with or without cash) but only if you keep returning and asking for that one particular girl (not recommended when you are short on time). Massage or Hair Wash Girls - often you can get a hair wash for 10 Kuai (about US$1.25) anywhere in China and with that often comes an upper body massage. In the course of the massage you will usually be asked if you want "other" services which are usually only provided by certain girls (the others having "standards"). These are negotiable just like everywhere else, but usually (outside of personal massages in your own hotel room) consist of no more than an oily hand job. ~~

~~ Now of course, within all these other divisions of labour, there are often pros pretending to be something else. Your KTV girls for instance, are just high priced Bar Girls, nothing more but sometimes they can be negotiable for other services as well. The best thing to do in any and all situations is to ask up front for exactly what you want. And of course, never, ever trust the pimps. Usually they don't even have their own stable, they are just freelancers with a better idea of what is available.~~

~~But let's get back to some more suitable areas to check out. California Club (aka Park 97), Sunday through Thursday 99% Pros (5-8), Friday and Saturday 40-60% pros, the rest foreigners and free girls (not all available); Julu Lu (Julu Road) - a street of bars and inside the bars 80% or more Bar Girls (some part time Pros) all days of the week, but nothing much happens before 2 a.m. when the other bars begin to close. The girls on the street are all Pros (5-8)and prices usually range from 200-500 Kuai (US$25-63). Julu Lu is incredibly close to the Shanghai Hilton but for some odd reason the ugliest Pros in town hang their shingle immediately outside the doors. A step out the front door, turn right and within a very short walk you will be right at Julu Lu. ~~

~~Mao Ming Nan Lu (South Mao Ming Road) - another street of bars and inside the bars maybe 20-50% of the girls are Bar Girls and the Pros outside (100%) wander in and out freely. Many free girls especially on the weekends, but too damned many beggars. The Pros here go from 100-500 Kuai (US$13-63) and the Bar Girls are only just that. Heng Shan Lu (Heng Shan Road) - another street of bars but they think they are a little more upscale. Not so, the Pros try to get more out of you (their starting prices are higher) but if you use patience and care, you can talk them down considerably. Be adimant and prepared to walk away and they will lower their prices. ~~

~~They will try to get US$100 (800 Kuai) out of you, but if you stick with Chinese money (refuse to even bargain in US dollars), then you should get them down to 300-500 Kuai (US$38-63). Lots of variation here, the distinctions are not so cut and dried anyone can be anything but some of the nicer looking girls come down here to party especially on the weekends.~~~~

~~There are BJ bars all over town where you can get a hummer right in the place for less than fifty bucks. Most of the girls are willing to go home with you for room service as well, that will cost a hundred (US). Try the ZY on Nanjing and Yan An rds, or the Blue Dream on Changshu rd down from the Hilton. ~~

~~The Saunas are better, the easiest one to find is the Happy Club across from Malones Sports Bar. 700rmb (100US) for the works.~~

~~~~Places to look:
~~~~The big bars and names like Hard Rock, Malones, the Long Bar (Dragon, in Chinese).~~Julu Road. I have even seen Eastern Europeans working the streets here.~~

~~We agreed and were presented with a line-up of about 8 girls. The night was going well, relaxing, singing, and touching. We knew the price of beer ahead of time, 20 RMB per bottle, but nothing was mentioned about the girls drinks, mostly juices, or the snacks they later ordered. Anyway, we figured inclusive of the girls' fees, we'd be spending about 500 RMB for the night. But after we made the girls leave the manager came in and presented us with a bill for 1200 RMB. What the fuck! We must have spent an hour negotiating the price, and it wasn't until we threatened to beat the shit out of this guy that he finally agreed to 550 RMB.~~

~~Dong Guan is the place to be. Forget about Beijing or Shanghai or whatever, this place got the best selection, best price and best of all safe.~~

~~Dong Guan (DG) is about half hour train ride from Shengzeng. When you get there, ask taxi driver to take you to a town called Chungping (CP). You can stay at a hotel called "Good Luck". It's 3-star hotel and only cost abound $20-$25 per night. You can take girls back to your room any time and no one will ever give you problem. 90% of the girls you see on the street are "Fuckable". ~~

~~~~After we finished meal at about almost six Coco arranged one of the girls to take me back to Nanhai Hotel where I was staying in order to "take care" of me. The second time I took two other girls back to Holiday Inn Huatong Hotel at the same time. About three weeks ago I went past the bar at day time and found that it had been closed down by the police – the door was sealed by the authorities with a public notice. So when I went back last week I was relieved that the bar had reopened and I saw Coco and my two "wives" again. I didn’t take any of the girls back to the Holiday Inn but I got Coco to give me her mobile number – she had promised last time (my second visit) that one day she would "take care" of me, if I would buy her a ring or something from Hong Kong. I’ll probably do that in the coming months.

~~~~During the last few years I hardly go to Shenzhen and never stayed overnight anyway. Now I’ll go there more often as my company is working on a project there, but normally I won’t spend the night there. AT the end of July during my second stay there I found out that Holiday Inn Huadong is actually a very girl-friendly hotel.

~~~~First of all, it’s got a nightclub on the third floor. Ostensibly the nightclub doesn’t have working girls or xiaojie but they do have DJs who will operate the karaoke players for you in your VIP room. They will also sing for you, drink with you and talk to you. There is a minimum charge of some US$35 for a small room, with beers costing some $4 each. You can of course talk your DJ up to your room, but the mamasan stressed that that has nothing to do with the nightclub. I didn’t actually spend any time there – I just went there before dinner to look at the place and talk to the mamasan.

~~~~Secondly, the hotel has got a sauna and massage parlour which I did visit last time I was there but didn’t like it that much. The massage parlour is located in an annex behind the hotel, and at that time it seemed to me that it was independent of the hotel. The private suites were designed like standard hotel guestrooms except that there is no front door. As you step in, you’ve got the rest room and the sauna room either on your left or right. The massage room, which is where you sleep in a standard guestroom, does have a door. However, the partition with the next room is made of glass, and although there are curtains you can still see what’s going on next door through the crack between the curtains. The masseuse who served me last time did give me an oil rub with a handjob, but she wouldn’t take my shorts off for fear that the manager or the police might come in.

~~~~Last week, as I wandered out of the nightclub and followed the signs I found out that the sauna parlour was actually connected to the hotel by a passageway. The manageress was very friendly when she learned that I was a hotel guest, and personally showed me around. I was not too keen to go back again, but I nevertheless asked casually if their masseuses could go upstairs to the guestrooms. To my surprise she said yes, but before mid-night, even though the sauna parlour closes at 3am.

~~~~So just before mid-night I called the sauna place and asked the manageress to send a masseuse to my room, but she said that to ensure the guests’ safety, the hotel required the guests to go downstairs to accompany the masseuse to their rooms. So I went down, and asked the manageress to allow me to pick my girl personally. She led me to a large room where about 30 girls were gathering in small groups playing card games or talking to each other. I glanced around and chose a girl who was taking a nap. She was a bit plump for me but I was attracted by her tits.

~~~~Back in my room I took a quick shower first and then went on bed with a towel around my waist. As she gave me a massage we had a nice chat. She told me her name was Zhang Yanmei and her number was 71. She came from Sichuan just about a year ago, and had been working there for a couple of months. We even talked about her current boyfriend who poked her cheery and how they enjoyed lovemaking. I then asked her to do a second session and gave me an oil rub but she didn’t want to work overtime. She was willing to give me extra service but unfortunately she didn’t have any condoms on her, and for once I haven’t got any either. In any case she took off her T-shirt and bra, and let me played with her tits, but resisted when I tried to take her pants off. After a bit of a struggle I finally managed to strip her naked and got my fingers into her cunt. As she seemed to enjoy it, I stepped up the effort and oiled her backside to facilitate my invasion of her anus with a finger. On and off I finger-fucked her three times, attacking her vagina and anus simultaneously, and brought her to multiple climax. On my third assault she jerked me off vigorously, and we climaxed at the same time.

Second thing is watchout for vice squad. I have some connections over there and recently I took 8 bros of mine over there for a good time. We all ended up in the detention center and after I pulled my strings, I got out free the next day but all the other guys had to pay about $500USD even after I bargained. There was nothing I or anyone can do at that point except pay them off.