Shower anyone?

[frankmango]

Everyone who has done any mongering in the LOS knows all about Thai girls and their creative use of the bath towel.
I have often entered into a discussion with the Ladies when it comes to shower time about who will go first. This is usually on the heels of a short discussion wherein I find out that we won't be showering together.
I can live with the "not together" part as one never really knows what kinda cleaning up is going on in there. However I have more often than not meet up with a strong determination that I be the one to shower first.
Personally I think this is a ploy. The notion that a Thai woman would have the jam to direct a man to do anything at all is what is a stake. It's my feeling that this is a little test. How complete is this Johns western femin-nazi training?
Normally I am not to insistant about anything. I go with the flow. Though I do remember one occassion when I was annoyed about how things went from "Hot" to "cool" the second the door to my room closed. The conversation about the shower eventually came up. I explained to the lady in a sure and even tone that I was the man and she was the woman, that this was my room and that she was going to shower first absolutly. There was a short pause at the end of my "setting things straight" . My lady friend then gave a little thai bow, took off her dress and went into the shower. The rest of the evening went remarkable well.
I believe that these girls necessarily develop survival skills. They with a little experience can take a read on many things. I've got it in my head that this little "dialogue" around the shower issue can be a real "tell".
Any thoughts?

Mango

[one786]

I will say man take first shower and let lady take later. this way you ger clean tub and dry up for action when she finish and come for action.

[Billabong]

Frank,
This is a good point.
I once had a run-in over the girl smoking in my room.
Basically, I was becoming a clockwork trick to her, and she got a little casual about my 'house rules' .
Once we respectfully got things straightened out (it pays as you say, to remain cool) I never looked back, and have been seeing her happily for years on and off.
As for showering, just make sure your wallet is secure at all times, I once found myself in a room without a safe or access to a deposit box due to a late arival at a cheap joint, and lost B3000 to the girl who robbed me when I was showering. I thot I'd be smart and hide the wallet in a room with not many good hiding places, which is why she found it. I should have just kept it out in full view, but in the bathroom. And, she cleverly did not take too much money so even after i paid her, I only found out after a careful count in the morning.
Sometimes a night in a cheap hotel ends up being very expensive.
But yes, it pays to not let these girls walk all over you in to regards the minutae of daily life, without having to be a bastard about it.
Bill.

[frankmango]

This is in regard to having discussions with these gals about room rules ie. smoking not smoking etc. and/or some dialogue about what will be going on ie. you shower first/I shower first etc.
I am firmly of the opinion that when the male strongly insists upon the course of action the Thai gals are happy to comply. I'm going to hazard a guess here and suggest that culturally Thai woman have far more limitations in their interactions with Thai males than western woman have with western males.My guess is that when they are with western men they attempt to see how far they can push the envelope.
I think that in spicific environments Thai woman would not dare tell a Thai man what to do.
I am not a Thai man. I am a western male and have been subjected to standard western femin-nazi training. The results of which are obvious. I have been so well trained I won't talk to a western gal unless I have to. Sleeping with one is absolutly out of the question.
Now with Thai woman I have taken the course of being fair and reasonable but absolutly the boss. I want what I assume to be the same respect that they would give a Thai man. When I have taken the time set expectations with my Thai company I have found their responses to be overall positive. To my mind they were only too happy to assume a role that they were more comfortable with.
"Up to you" is an expression that western males are sometimes caught short with and Thai woman live by.
just some thoughts .
Mango