Pattaya vs Bangkok

[cariocacoracao]

I haven't been to Thailand yet. My friend says Pattaya is known as Thailand's wildest city. Is it crazier than BKK? From what I've read, it doesn't seem more "depraved" ;) than BKK? Anyone agree? Disagree?

I appreciate your input. Thanks.

[nightowl2548]

Pattaya easily has 5 times the hookers than Bangkok at less than half the price and is where experienced travelers go. First timers generaly go to Bangkok because they know little other that what they've heard from the sensationalist TV reports that "Bangkok is the Sex Capital" they also overpay so now the girls in Bangkok demand 3000 baht for an hour of sex when the Pattaya beer bar girls spend the night with you for 1000 baht. I never go to Bangkok anymore.

[Mr Shagmeister]

BKK is a big city, Pattaya is a big brothel.

[Steve German]

And BKK is so crowded, hot and everytime traffic jam. Go to Patty, enjoy
the breeze and spend a few times on the islands
And believe it, Patty is much cheaper also for drinks and accomodation

Enjoy

[coastal55]

my take,

Patty = cheaper, more choice.

BKK = some stunners, but alot more attitude, and inflation of 50 to 100% on price.

I would spend a couple of Days in BKK. And 12 in pattaya, on a two week holiday.

I have heard good things about Tulips, found good quality in CM2 (NOT cheap here! $100 to 150.), and found some bargins in Nana plaza. just be prepared to negotiate.

[piratedking]

Pattaya is SEX town! So if you want sex, head direct to Pattaya, and it is much cheaper compare to BKK. For example, a-go-go bar girls in BKK need 2000b for ST, with this price, you can have LT in Pattaya.

[cariocacoracao]

Thanks everyone for the feedback. Much obliged.

[jaybird]

I like to go to both places each trip. They are only two hours apart by taxi or express bus. The change of scenery is nice. But Pattaya is cheaper.

[joecoolfrog]

Pattaya easily has 5 times the hookers than Bangkok at less than half the price and is where experienced travelers go. First timers generaly go to Bangkok because they know little other that what they've heard from the sensationalist TV reports that "Bangkok is the Sex Capital" they also overpay so now the girls in Bangkok demand 3000 baht for an hour of sex when the Pattaya beer bar girls spend the night with you for 1000 baht. I never go to Bangkok anymore.

Plenty of freelancers/ bar girls in Bangkok for 1500 baht LT, yes Pattaya is cheaper but you are exagerating wildly. Think you will also find a good few noobs in Pattaya, especially in high season, which is why a lot of the walking street go go girls are a hell of a lot more than 1000 baht.

[nightowl2548]

You're right, walking street gogo's are a ripoff tourist trap. But there are good deals to be found in the beer bars around town. Don't ask the price, you're singling out yourself as a newbie and she'll try to play you. If you go for the bar's "queen" you also might get quoted a high price as such high demand girls can be selective. With an average bargirl just hand them 1000 baht in the morning.

If you've never been to Bangkok go for your first 3 days and see the sights, Grand Palace, Jim Thompson House, river boat tours are interesting, just don't buy all the junk when the tours take you to the factory shops after the sites to try to milk suckers of their baht. Then head to Pattaya. And DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT take a bangkok bargirl with you as company to pattaya. It is like bringing sand to the beach. A foolish move I see newbies making.

[BKKkeemao]

Nightowl,

I agree most Pattaya hookers should be content with 1k baht in the morning, but i would be careful. What if in the morning she demands 3k and says thats her going rate? It's generally best to get a price even if you say it in a not so business manner.

[jeremy]

Sorry, I am no Pattaya fan. I strongly prefer Bangkok.

[BKKkeemao]

Sorry, I am no Pattaya fan. I strongly prefer Bangkok.

Jeremy i agree with you 100%! I get very bored when i go anywhere outside of BKK for too long. I can last about 4 days in Pattaya and then want to get back to civilization. I love the action in BKK! So many restaurants, high so joints, and various things to do. Pattaya is a big brothel and even that gets old after a while. But it looks like its only us two that feel this way.. so maybe we are just odd balls. LOL

[Jimmy Red Cab]

Sorry, I am no Pattaya fan. I strongly prefer Bangkok.


I agree but I think it is good to see both places, Pattaya is certainly cheaper with most average Beer Bar girls wanting 1000 baht LT, in Bangkok you will be looking at 1500-2000 for LT. (even more for the top Go-Go girls)

[shagwell]

Sorry, I am no Pattaya fan. I strongly prefer Bangkok.
I'm unsure on this one at the moment. I like Bangkok but probably because I have spent a lot of time there in the past so know the city (or at least the bits I need to know) pretty well. So far I've only had a couple of brief trips to Pattaya and most of the time with the ball and chain, but what I saw I liked. Bangkok has everything you could want except a beach, but it's pretty spread out and the mongering is a bit dearer. Pattaya is nice and compact with girls everywhere, as Shagmeister says it's a big brothel.

Next trip I'll probably spend two or three days in Bangkok then head off to Pattaya, the rest of the trip I'll play by ear depending how much I'm enjoying Pattaya. Nice to be near the beach though - even if it is crap. It will be my first time in Thailand as a single guy - can't wait!

[jerboa]

Pattaya Some love It and some hate It. I like both locations, Patty for some hardcore mongering, and bkk for the big city enviroment. Soapies, bars & clubs.

On my next trip at the end of the month I'm thinking about going to patty for a week, then possibly on to bkk or phuket. Oh decisions decisions! :D

[jake11]

I prefer Bangkok. Iv'e only been to Pattaya once, but from what I saw, while there may be more girls there, the quality is generally better in Bangok. And I don't mind paying a bit more for that. You can get absolute stunners in BKK go-go bars for as little as 1500 sometimes.

Maybe I'm wrong, went to Pattaya at a bad time or something ... will give Pattaya another go next time (hopefully soon ...).

[Jimmy Red Cab]

You can get absolute stunners in BKK go-go bars for as little as 1500 sometimes.



While that may be possible it is not the norm, most Nana Plaza girls will quote 3000 baht LT, some will even try for 4000. :(

[jeremy]

Jeremy i agree with you 100%! I get very bored when i go anywhere outside of BKK for too long. I can last about 4 days in Pattaya and then want to get back to civilization. I love the action in BKK! So many restaurants, high so joints, and various things to do. Pattaya is a big brothel and even that gets old after a while. But it looks like its only us two that feel this way.. so maybe we are just odd balls. LOL

Agreed. I prefer the multiple options of differing neighborhoods, restaurants, hotels and museums in Bangkok. Pattaya is just a big beer bar to me. To wake up, put 5000 bhat and condoms in my pocket, put on my sunglasses and head out on the sky train early in the morning and just wander around Bangkok in an area I have never been to is an absolute blast. It's practically heaven to me. :D

[bijimi]

Agreed. I prefer the multiple options of differing neighborhoods, restaurants, hotels and museums in Bangkok. Pattaya is just a big beer bar to me. To wake up, put 5000 bhat and condoms in my pocket, put on my sunglasses and head out on the sky train early in the morning and just wander around Bangkok in an area I have never been to is an absolute blast. It's practically heaven to me. :D

Yeah that's class. Remember my mate and I used to wake up and just head out random places, jump on the skytrain and walk about randomly. The city is so huge theres so much to see not even including any tourist stuff. It's mad just walking about over there.

Bet there's some real cheap brothels in these other areas too if they take farang? :confused:

[nightowl2548]

Both are just smoggy, crowded, polluted concrete slums. If you have the money Phuket and Koh Samui both offer much more greenery and fresh air. Patong Beach in particular also has ample beer bars with cheap women, just avoid the gogos and soi Tiger with their elevated prices. The only issue is you have to find a hotel that doesn't charge you fees to bring back girls. There are lots in Patong but you won't find them if you just do an internet search for "Phuket Hotels" you'll mostly get expensive joints geared towards millrat families that charge you 500 baht or more to bring back a girl. This is where most pussy tourists go wrong and then they sour to the place. Bargirl oriented boards is the place to research hotels down there. However, the tailors in Patong are the most foul, anoying, and aggressive vendors I've come across in all off Thailand.

[joecoolfrog]

Both are just smoggy, crowded, polluted concrete slums. If you have the money Phuket and Koh Samui both offer much more greenery and fresh air. Patong Beach in particular also has ample beer bars with cheap women, just avoid the gogos and soi Tiger with their elevated prices. The only issue is you have to find a hotel that doesn't charge you fees to bring back girls. There are lots in Patong but you won't find them if you just do an internet search for "Phuket Hotels" you'll mostly get expensive joints geared towards millrat families that charge you 500 baht or more to bring back a girl. This is where most pussy tourists go wrong and then they sour to the place. Bargirl oriented boards is the place to research hotels down there. However, the tailors in Patong are the most foul, anoying, and aggressive vendors I've come across in all off Thailand.

The tailors I dont mind but the tuk tuk mafia wind me up intensely:mad:
You are correct that most of the resort style hotels are geared towards families and discourage
( or at least seek to make a profit ) out of mongers, many girl friendly places as well though,especially along Rat-ur-thit and Nanai roads ,which I can steer any interested parties to.

[jeremy]

Yeah that's class. Remember my mate and I used to wake up and just head out random places, jump on the skytrain and walk about randomly. The city is so huge theres so much to see not even including any tourist stuff. It's mad just walking about over there.

Bet there's some real cheap brothels in these other areas too if they take farang? :confused:

They take anyone with bhat ... and it's much cheaper but more importantly, it's more authentic. Chinatown is worth a stroll.

[jeremy]

[QUOTE=nightowl2548;451311]Both are just smoggy, crowded, polluted concrete slums. If you have the money Phuket and Koh Samui both offer much more greenery and fresh air. Patong Beach in particular also has ample beer bars with cheap women, just avoid the gogos and soi Tiger with their elevated prices. [QUOTE]

I disagree. Patong is nothing special, I actually prefer the islands or other areas of Phuket - of course little to no mongering there. I love Bangkok. Do I want to move there? No. Is it smoggy with terrible traffic? Yes. Is it full of endless opportunities for fun? Yes, and do your homework. Is it dangerous? Safer than most American cities of comparable size in my opinion. All in all, I can't wait for my next trip. :cool:

[mrniceguy55]

I dont like gogo girls and other pros, i like semi pros that Bangkok offers in clubs like Guliver, Qar, Spicy club and so on... But price difference is enormous in advantage of Pattaya.

[HKAsiaphile]

I dont like gogo girls and other pros, i like semi pros that Bangkok offers in clubs like Guliver, Qar, Spicy club and so on... But price difference is enormous in advantage of Pattaya.

"Semi-pros"???? :D :D

Sorry to burst your bubble but if a girl is taking money for sex, even only once a week as opposed to every night, she's a hooker plain and simple, there is no grey area here. You're not sponsoring one are you?

[shagwell]

By semi-pro I assume he means girls who work all week say in a store for a pittance, or students, who freelance sometimes to supplement their income. As oppose to gogo, beerbar or massage girls who have made the decision to work solely in the sex industry.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

By semi-pro I assume he means girls who work all week say in a store for a pittance, or students, who freelance sometimes to supplement their income. As oppose to gogo, beerbar or massage girls who have made the decision to work solely in the sex industry.

A lot of girls in Bangkok are "semi-pros", they sometimes turn up late at night in the Nana parking lot or maybe The Thermae.
Why they bother with a "normal job" is beyond me.

[jerboa]

A lot of girls in Bangkok are "semi-pros", they sometimes turn up late at night in the Nana parking lot or maybe The Thermae.
Why they bother with a "normal job" is beyond me.

They want the facade of staying good girls.

[BKKkeemao]

They want the facade of staying good girls.

I agree.. but i feel most of these girls are not office workers that are short a few baht. I have heard that story many times, but really doubt its true. In your own country you don't go around hooking if you don't have rent. You simply are late or get a loan from your friends or family. I would imagine most girls that are simi pros know what they are doing and have no problem with it. The poor girl that is short 1k for rent sounds great.. and its her first time. she dont normally do this. LOL..

[nightowl2548]

A lot of girls in Bangkok are "semi-pros", they sometimes turn up late at night in the Nana parking lot or maybe The Thermae.
Why they bother with a "normal job" is beyond me.

Maybe their looks aren't good enough to rely on hooking full time.

[BKKkeemao]

Maybe their looks aren't good enough to rely on hooking full time.

If they can pull it off one night at Nana Car Park then they can do it everynight. I agree why bother with a normal job when punters are paying a monthly salary for one night. Damn Thai guys are the smart ones here.. Treat your women like shit and they will keep coming back for more. Hell most of them have wifes and bang MP girls every other weekend. The wife knows it but can't do a damn thing about it. We (including myself) have really fucked up a good thing in Thailand. If we treated women like this in America and Europe we wouldn't have to fly 10k miles to fuck a spoilt hooker.

[jerboa]

I agree.. but i feel most of these girls are not office workers that are short a few baht. I have heard that story many times, but really doubt its true. In your own country you don't go around hooking if you don't have rent. You simply are late or get a loan from your friends or family. I would imagine most girls that are simi pros know what they are doing and have no problem with it. The poor girl that is short 1k for rent sounds great.. and its her first time. she dont normally do this. LOL..

But LOS Is not the same as the west. Sure girls In the US/Europe are not often going to rent their pussy out to make the rent up. But the Thai culture Is different, prostitution is not so badly looked down there. Some girls may work In hotels or shops see their friends making some good money FL and they want a bit of that on the sly.

[Keen_Punter]

If they can pull it off one night at Nana Car Park then they can do it everynight. I agree why bother with a normal job when punters are paying a monthly salary for one night. Damn Thai guys are the smart ones here.. Treat your women like shit and they will keep coming back for more. Hell most of them have wifes and bang MP girls every other weekend. The wife knows it but can't do a damn thing about it. We (including myself) have really fucked up a good thing in Thailand. If we treated women like this in America and Europe we wouldn't have to fly 10k miles to fuck a spoilt hooker.
You are so clueless, I am almost embarrassed for you.

You accused me of living in a fantasy world, do actually believe the shit you write ?

[BKKkeemao]

You are so clueless, I am almost embarrassed for you.

You accused me of living in a fantasy world, do actually believe the shit you write ?

Do you follow me around to every freaking thread? Geezus go find a hooker already and leave me the fuck alone. I would say 90% of punters agree with my statement that we have fucked up THailand. Get a grip boy don't you know spoiling bitches is only done by us morons with money. The local Thai guy is not jealous of you paying a ugly fatty 1500 baht.. In fact they are laughing in your face as you walk hand in hand with your whore. Why are you such an angry man? Now i see why you got threatened by senior members before.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

Maybe their looks aren't good enough to rely on hooking full time.


You don't have to be beautiful to be a full time hooker, most rely on heavy makeup and the farang being pissed at 2am ---- many times I have cringed when I see them emerge fron the bathroom minus makeup. :( :(

[b11grod]

many times I have cringed when I see them emerge fron the bathroom minus makeup. :( :(

I can relate to that, though it usually happens to me only on the first day or two since I am very eager to commence my FUCK-ation

[shagwell]

Well my take is that the girls who decide to freelance on the side while holding down a normal job are perhaps convincing themselves that they are a bit more respectable than a full time hooker (I don't agree with them - but that's the way they think). Quite often they will become full time hookers over time as they start to see the financial rewards and become more comfortable with what they are doing. They are in all likelihood not freelancing to put food on the table or pay rent arrears, their dayjob pays for that, but so they can afford that latest Nokia or more expensive makeup or clothes. In other words so they can afford those luxuries that their 'normal salary' doesn't stretch to.

Some (but not all) of the girls drift slowly into the sex industry rather than arrive in a pickup from upcountry only to be dropped off at Nana on arrival at the big Mango.
There seems to be a pecking order of respectability within the sex industry as well. I remember my ex telling me that she could never stoop so low as to work in a gogo dancing semi naked in front off all those strangers! Now she worked in the sex industry herself - just not in a gogo - so go figure :confused:
She is now trying to set herself up with someone - "who can take care of her" rather than go back to 'work' I asked her what she will provide for the lucky guy in return - why sex of course! So she is in fact going back to work, but as it will be with one customer instead of lots of different ones she prefers not to see herself as a working girl!

Some would never sell themselves no matter how hard up they are, some will do it occasionally and convince themselves that because they aren't full time they hold some sort of moral high ground, while others have made the full transition and have accepted it.

Another expression I have come across in the past goes along the lines of "Well at least I don't fuck strangers for free every Saturday night like a lot of girls from your country!" When you think about it in some ways that is a valid point, isn't it?

The morals for and against working girls and their choice of work is an interesting subject, certainly my views on the trade have changed immensely over the last few years.

[jerboa]

Good post Shagwell, sounds spot on. Once they see how much baht Is to be made they get sucked In.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

There seems to be a pecking order of respectability within the sex industry as well. I remember my ex telling me that she could never stoop so low as to work in a gogo dancing semi naked in front off all those strangers!


That is also true in the UK, Escorts look down on parlour girls and parlour girls look down on street girls ---- of course there is very little difference, apart from the price of course.:)

[gummibaer]

But LOS Is not the same as the west. Sure girls In the US/Europe are not often going to rent their pussy out to make the rent up. But the Thai culture Is different, prostitution is not so badly looked down there. Some girls may work In hotels or shops see their friends making some good money FL and they want a bit of that on the sly.

Tell you what, kids, here in Germany that's exactly what a lot of women short of euros do: They spend a few nights in a FKK or Partytreff after work to make ends meet. They are welcome guests and usually have to pay admission just like the mongers. They are freelancers in a controlled, safe environment. Even some husbands with a pimping complex will take their wives to such establishments. I knew a couple who did this 5 nights a week. More than paid for their Benz and 3 vacations in the Canaries every year. This started 20 yrs ago and they just celebratzed theis 25 anniversary! If you understand German you can read some fascinating report on that subject on German mongering fora.

[dickslapp]

While that may be possible it is not the norm, most Nana Plaza girls will quote 3000 baht LT, some will even try for 4000. :(

I have never paid more than 2K for LT with any girl in Nana. Sure they quote more, but unless you are an old troll, you can always talk them down. I have girls I have gone back to for years, both in Nana and in Soi Cowboy. There is only one Bkk girl that I have spent more money on, granted that was to tap the virgin butt of a girl I was tapping for years. I am not huge, but it was like popping a cherry... if you know what i mean.

Still I like Pattaya for the value. You can find girls beteen 500-1000ST, 1000-2000LT with much ease. The selection opportunities is amazing there. Tons of fishies in one small pool.

[mustardman]

I have never paid more than 2K for LT with any girl in Nana. Sure they quote more, but unless you are an old troll, you can always talk them down. I have girls I have gone back to for years, both in Nana and in Soi Cowboy. There is only one Bkk girl that I have spent more money on, granted that was to tap the virgin butt of a girl I was tapping for years. I am not huge, but it was like popping a cherry... if you know what i mean.

Still I like Pattaya for the value. You can find girls beteen 500-1000ST, 1000-2000LT with much ease. The selection opportunities is amazing there. Tons of fishies in one small pool.

2k LT is getting a LOT harder in the BKK GoGo's! Most of those girls aren't good for much more than ST anyways!

[BKKkeemao]

Tell you what, kids, here in Germany that's exactly what a lot of women short of euros do: They spend a few nights in a FKK or Partytreff after work to make ends meet. They are welcome guests and usually have to pay admission just like the mongers. They are freelancers in a controlled, safe environment. Even some husbands with a pimping complex will take their wives to such establishments. I knew a couple who did this 5 nights a week. More than paid for their Benz and 3 vacations in the Canaries every year. This started 20 yrs ago and they just celebratzed theis 25 anniversary! If you understand German you can read some fascinating report on that subject on German mongering fora.

Wow thats interesting! Most women in America short of money just sit on their fat asses or charge even more on their credit cards. Once that runs out they file for bankrupcy or screw some poor chump out of his money. Lastly they suck on the goverments tit for all its worth and even complain about that. It would do these women some good to whore for a living and learn what its like to have a real job. Unfortunately by then they are fatter than a sea whale.

[mustardman]

Wow thats interesting! Most women in America short of money just sit on their fat asses or charge even more on their credit cards. Once that runs out they file for bankrupcy or screw some poor chump out of his money. Lastly they suck on the goverments tit for all its worth and even complain about that. It would do these women some good to whore for a living and learn what its like to have a real job. Unfortunately by then they are fatter than a sea whale.


Your generalizing but I mostly agree with you. North American women are spoiled beyond all normality. Everything from the media, society, institutions, gov't....they all take the womans side.

When it is perfectly acceptable to bash men in popular culture/media but considered almost a crime to bash women then something is seriously wrong!

While it will never happen, convincing your woman to let you pimp her out would probably do a LOT of good. I'm sure it's very rare in Europe but I can definitely believe it happens a lot more than in N. America.

[mustardman]

ffs.Canada.Truly a fucked up former colony,if this mustard is to be cut:rolleyes:

The women sure look a lot better here than those pasty white pudgy things that pass for women in the UK. No wonder there are so many of you punters in Thailand.

[jerboa]

The women sure look a lot better here than those pasty white pudgy things that pass for women in the UK. No wonder there are so many of you punters in Thailand.


Yeh but no we're getting lots more hot central and eastern euro girls comming here, god bless the EU! :D

[mustardman]

Yeh but no we're getting lots more hot central and eastern euro girls comming here, god bless the EU! :D

You got me there. We have French Canadians and a good mix of Euro genes in the pool but some of those Eastern Euro babes are something else! German babes can be pretty amazing too.

[puntaarenas]

in my view, ok, Pattaya may have some advantages, e.g.
- weather / envrionment
- lost of fish in a small pool
- cheaper prices (thogh that was not my personal experience - is that proven ?)

but I see lots of advantages for BKK:
- definitely better girls, in my view
- a few pools with lots of fish. ok, there may be a taxi ride between Patpong, SCB, Nana, but the pools are there. just avoid the MPs.
- few ladyboys compared to Pattaya, or only in some areas. (I dont mind ladyboys being around, but still, every time I enter a beer garden in Pattaya, I have to look at each face to see what is the real girly selection...)
- good price for what you get (1000/1500 ST, max. 3000 LT)
- firm chances of GFE in some areas, if that's what you want (I did not get this in Pattaya)
- if you ever have regrets about what you are doing (when wife calls) or ever fear some people find out who should not, you feel much betetr in BKK than in sex city.
- less cheating, safer environment (yes I did get cheated in Pattaya, a 2000 b ST girl who did almost nothing - it was always great service in BKK)

[mustardman]

in my view, ok, Pattaya may have some advantages, e.g.
- weather / envrionment
- lost of fish in a small pool
- cheaper prices (thogh that was not my personal experience - is that proven ?)

but I see lots of advantages for BKK:
- definitely better girls, in my view
- a few pools with lots of fish. ok, there may be a taxi ride between Patpong, SCB, Nana, but the pools are there. just avoid the MPs.
- few ladyboys compared to Pattaya, or only in some areas. (I dont mind ladyboys being around, but still, every time I enter a beer garden in Pattaya, I have to look at each face to see what is the real girly selection...)
- good price for what you get (1000/1500 ST, max. 3000 LT)
- firm chances of GFE in some areas, if that's what you want (I did not get this in Pattaya)
- if you ever have regrets about what you are doing (when wife calls) or ever fear some people find out who should not, you feel much betetr in BKK than in sex city.
- less cheating, safer environment (yes I did get cheated in Pattaya, a 2000 b ST girl who did almost nothing - it was always great service in BKK)


I have to disagree with most of that but it does depend a LOT on the time of year and things are changing. Pattaya high season can be kind of fucked up. Your just another swinging dick with a wallet. I can understand having trouble finding GFE then but on average I find much better GFE's in Pattaya than Bangkok! Even high season. The fact I normally don't barfine from the GoGo's in Pattaya(especially with BF's and ST/LT rates getting out of hand lately) probably has a lot to do with it! In BKK that's one of the few options so I barfine from the GoGo's more there.

It depends on where you like to go as well. Walking street Pattaya is fucked up. The women are spoiled by all the young stupid short term millionaires full of piss and vinegar. So in general the GoGo scene in Pattaya can leave a lot to be desired especially in high season whereas in BKK the GoGo scene can be not so bad sometimes.

But as far as fresh off the farm amateurs who are more than happy to provide sincere GFE for cheap, Pattaya beerbars are hard to beat! Yes it is more work for sure but I find persistence can pay huge dividends sometimes.

Then of course there is Soi6. God bless that street and all the willing providers on it with a constant churn of talent to keep things from getting stale.

And if you ask me, BKK Sukhumvit or Patpong area is more sleazy and shameful than Pattaya in general if your on some guilt trip. Nobody is looking at you sideways in Pattaya but in Bkk all the non-bargirl Thais and non-monger Expats who live and work there know what your up to. They will sometimes look at you sideways or talk behind your back. Especially the guys who like to walk hand in hand with their Issan bargirls around Siam square. In Pattaya, nobody bat's an eyelash no matter where you go!

But I think things are changing. I know of several working girls in BKK which you may be referring to as better quality, more sophisticated etc. that have moved to Pattaya. They like the more relaxed atmosphere, the cool breezes off the ocean, the cleaner air etc. Of course they like the fact they can make more money in Pattaya especially in high season even if they have to charge less. Seems to me the BKK scene is dying. There really aren't that many options in BKK. A handful of GoGo's and Nana parking lot is about it! I've gone home alone after not finding anything more times than I care to remember in BKK whereas in Pattaya I always seem to be able to find something.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

but I see lots of advantages for BKK:
- definitely better girls, in my view

Generally speaking that is true, BKK attracts better quality because the rates are much higher.

- few ladyboys compared to Pattaya, or only in some areas. (I dont mind ladyboys being around, but still, every time I enter a beer garden in Pattaya, I have to look at each face to see what is the real girly selection...)

Not sure about that, BKK is full of Ladyboys, four bars in Nana Plaza alone and numerous freelancers along Sukhumvit Road.

- good price for what you get (1000/1500 ST, max. 3000 LT)

The top girls in BKK are now asking, and getting 4000 LT.


- firm chances of GFE in some areas, if that's what you want (I did not get this in Pattaya)

Many Pattaya lovers would disagree with that.

- less cheating, safer environment (yes I did get cheated in Pattaya, a 2000 b ST girl who did almost nothing - it was always great service in BKK)

Why on earth did you agree to 2000 ST for a girl in Pattaya ????

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[Jimmy Red Cab]

Seems to me the BKK scene is dying. There really aren't that many options in BKK. A handful of GoGo's and Nana parking lot is about it! I've gone home alone after not finding anything more times than I care to remember in BKK whereas in Pattaya I always seem to be able to find something.


Are you sure you have actually been to Bangkok. :confused:

[puntaarenas]

Thanks Jimmy ! see below with *.


Originally Posted by puntaarenas

but I see lots of advantages for BKK:
- definitely better girls, in my view

Generally speaking that is true, BKK attracts better quality because the rates are much higher.

* Well, then as long as we don't mind spending 1000 baht more per night, then BKK is clearly better. I dont know about expats, but for someone like me who visits regularly even for long periods, 1000 baht extra per night is well worth it.

- few ladyboys compared to Pattaya, or only in some areas. (I dont mind ladyboys being around, but still, every time I enter a beer garden in Pattaya, I have to look at each face to see what is the real girly selection...)

Not sure about that, BKK is full of Ladyboys, four bars in Nana Plaza alone and numerous freelancers along Sukhumvit Road.

* I think we are saying the same thing. In BKK they are in two or three places, while in Pattaya they are scattered all over. so when I enter a beer bar, I need to look relatively closely... then I may enter and find 80% are ladyboys and leave. In SCB or Patpong I need not worry about ladyboys. also, the Pattaya ladyboys, who I respect, dont seem to respect my tastes. If I say I am not interested, I am not.

- good price for what you get (1000/1500 ST, max. 3000 LT)

The top girls in BKK are now asking, and getting 4000 LT.

* Well, for me it was 3000 max, but I would not mind 4000 if she is a top chick.

- firm chances of GFE in some areas, if that's what you want (I did not get this in Pattaya)

Many Pattaya lovers would disagree with that.

* Maybe it was my bad luck in Pattaya then, I should give it another try. But being relatively young myself, I am in for the 20-25 age range, and I also found many Pattaya girls were older.

- less cheating, safer environment (yes I did get cheated in Pattaya, a 2000 b ST girl who did almost nothing - it was always great service in BKK)

Why on earth did you agree to 2000 ST for a girl in Pattaya ????

* I did not. We had agreed on 1000 but then she would not do almost anything. while she finally sucks my cock she says "no, me not like, make 1500", what can I say ? ok... then she says "you not come", I say "me come", she says "ok, two thousand"... Definitely not a GFE, quite a horrible experience in fact, I kicked her out as soon as I came, and unfortunately it was too late to go out get another one.

* Also I foudn some vulgarity in Pattaya. in BKK, I love it when they are half naked, with tops off or bottoms off, very arousing. In Pattaya I remember some places where they were just taking their tits out of the bra to show them, lookign at customers while pointing at their tits, like to say "this is meat for sale". I found it a bit more refined / discreet in BKK. (well that may be subjective. I dont like the sex shows with candles either. I just want nice chicks dancing and showing some of their flesh, and choose one or two, that's it)

[Jimmy Red Cab]

Why on earth did you agree to 2000 ST for a girl in Pattaya ????

* I did not. We had agreed on 1000 but then she would not do almost anything.

We all have different ways of handling a situation but as soon as I saw she was unwilling to do anything I would have showed her the door, probably with 500 baht compensation.
If she would have protested I would have told her to contact her lawyer. :D

I could not have maintained an erection in the circumstaces you describe.:(

[puntaarenas]

Why on earth did you agree to 2000 ST for a girl in Pattaya ????

* I did not. We had agreed on 1000 but then she would not do almost anything.

We all have different ways of handling a situation but as soon as I saw she was unwilling to do anything I would have showed her the door, probably with 500 baht compensation.
If she would have protested I would have told her to contact her lawyer. :D

I could not have maintained an erection in the circumstaces you describe.:(

You are quite right Jimmy, that would have been the right way to handle it: kick out of the door, and 500 baht for the sake of avoiding an argument. That is exacyly what I would have done, if it was earlier. But it was almost 2 am, I knew I could not get another one, so it was either that, or self service...

Maybe I was just unlucky in Pattaya, I may give it anotehr try, especially since many posters think chances for GFE are higher, and yes, the environment is also nicer. But the quality of girls I think we all agree is lower, and I am honestly bothered by ladyboys who approach me in bars... I dont mean to be rude for them, but when I get into a beer bar, I just need to scan the place to see where are the chicks, and dont have the patience to smile at every ladyboy who tries to grab my attention - with all due respect for them and for those who like them. But I am in for really female, small, tiny, gorgeous Thai chicks with soft skin and soft voice, preferably a bit shy, and I get a better selection of that in BKK especially on SCB.

[mustardman]

Are you sure you have actually been to Bangkok. :confused:

Lived there for about a year. I'm not including all the shit beerbars and hole in the wall GoGo's with two dragon ladies doing the 2 step shuffle! Besides, whatever Bkk has for farang mongers Pattaya has 10 times more of except Fishbowls which are more a Thai thing anyways.

Bkk is just a shadow of what it was just several years ago. Nana has gone to shit! Lower quality, much higher prices. My beloved Thermae turned into a jap specialist joint. That short lived Clinton plaza GoGo area in between was good while it lasted. Patpong is still Patpong but there was a time mongers in the know would never go anywhere near that tourist trap. Now it's considered a good alternative to Nana. Soi Cowboy is usual shit quality as always, only now with much higher prices. Washington square has next to nothing besides Silver Dollar. Never seen anything worthwhile at that beerbar area near Washington square. Same same Soi 0 or 1 (?). Nana Disco is half empty now that they charge a fee and quality in there is shit. Only 2 things still about the same are Nana parking lot and Soi 7 Biergarten which were never that great. Yea, sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough but there are only so many places around to look. You can spend days in Pattaya never hitting the same place twice.

[Malapascua]

Lived there for about a year. I'm not including all the shit beerbars and hole in the wall GoGo's with two dragon ladies doing the 2 step shuffle! Besides, whatever Bkk has for farang mongers Pattaya has 10 times more of except Fishbowls which are more a Thai thing anyways.

Bkk is just a shadow of what it was just several years ago. Nana has gone to shit! Lower quality, much higher prices. My beloved Thermae turned into a jap specialist joint. That short lived Clinton plaza GoGo area in between was good while it lasted. Patpong is still Patpong but there was a time mongers in the know would never go anywhere near that tourist trap. Now it's considered a good alternative to Nana. Soi Cowboy is usual shit quality as always, only now with much higher prices. Washington square has next to nothing besides Silver Dollar. Never seen anything worthwhile at that beerbar area near Washington square. Same same Soi 0 or 1 (?). Nana Disco is half empty now that they charge a fee and quality in there is shit. Only 2 things still about the same are Nana parking lot and Soi 7 Biergarten which were never that great. Yea, sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough but there are only so many places around to look. You can spend days in Pattaya never hitting the same place twice.

the best analysis I've ever read about Bangkok.
I really don't understand why some guys here in the forum still want to go to Bangkok for mongering. wana waste your money - go to bangkok.

[joecoolfrog]

the best analysis I've ever read about Bangkok.
I really don't understand why some guys here in the forum still want to go to Bangkok for mongering. wana waste your money - go to bangkok.

I would agree that if your only interest in Thailand is mongering then you may well do better than Bangkok, though the hundreds of new girls arriving every day might well present a decent challenge to those whose mongering skills go beyond chucking money and ordering them to suck your saggy dick. Bangkok is vibrant,perfect for a few days but thats enough for me, for pure sex it has MPs that are unrivalled and if your lucky you can still find a GFE, if not there is plenty of scope elsewhere .

[Malapascua]

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[Malapascua]

Bangkok is vibrant,perfect for a few days

Agree. Bangkok has a lot of things to over. You can spend weeks there and you will still see so many new things.
But mongering?? Not really.

[dickslapp]

You are quite right Jimmy, that would have been the right way to handle it: kick out of the door, and 500 baht for the sake of avoiding an argument. That is exacyly what I would have done, if it was earlier. But it was almost 2 am, I knew I could not get another one, so it was either that, or self service...



Plenty of fish around soi 6 at 2am.

I would have considered walking her back to the bar and saying that the fish was stale and complained to the house mom.

[puntaarenas]

Plenty of fish around soi 6 at 2am.

I would have considered walking her back to the bar and saying that the fish was stale and complained to the house mom.

Thanks for the info. Well, I know for next time, to go out fishing again... just hope I get some cuties who just finished their ST, and not some leftovers who found no-one until 2 am...

Yes, I thought of complaining, but I did not want that to be the highlight of my Pattaya stay and my memories... So I just thought to come fast, sleep well, and focus on tomorrow. Indeed, the next day I started the afternoon with the pleasant discovery of "Hot Girls", with fully naked chicks, wow, I took one in the room upstairs, great time (she was 26 but looked much younger), and later on I dont remember as I was too drunk, but I know I had a good time.:D I won't let one small bad experience spoil my mood.

[mustardman]

Thanks for the info. Well, I know for next time, to go out fishing again... just hope I get some cuties who just finished their ST, and not some leftovers who found no-one until 2 am...

Yes, I thought of complaining, but I did not want that to be the highlight of my Pattaya stay and my memories... So I just thought to come fast, sleep well, and focus on tomorrow. Indeed, the next day I started the afternoon with the pleasant discovery of "Hot Girls", with fully naked chicks, wow, I took one in the room upstairs, great time (she was 26 but looked much younger), and later on I dont remember as I was too drunk, but I know I had a good time.:D I won't let one small bad experience spoil my mood.

"Up to you". Not the way I have handled it in the past. It's rare as I can usually tell during the interview process if they are jai dum.

I've gone back the next day and complained to Mamasan and gotten my barfine back. You have to be diplomatic about it like with everything else in Thailand. If you bitch and piss and moan the Thais just dig in their heels. If you remain calm and friendly and humble the Thais will often bend over backwards for you! One time Mamasan made her give me back my barfine out of her own pocket in front of the whole bar so she lost face with the other girls which will make her think twice the next time! The way I see it, if you let them get away with it they will do it to the next guy and what goes around comes around! Vacation or not! It's not about the money either. It's the principle.

[puntaarenas]

"Up to you". Not the way I have handled it in the past. It's rare as I can usually tell during the interview process if they are jai dum.

I've gone back the next day and complained to Mamasan and gotten my barfine back. You have to be diplomatic about it like with everything else in Thailand. If you bitch and piss and moan the Thais just dig in their heels. If you remain calm and friendly and humble the Thais will often bend over backwards for you! One time Mamasan made her give me back my barfine out of her own pocket in front of the whole bar so she lost face with the other girls which will make her think twice the next time! The way I see it, if you let them get away with it they will do it to the next guy and what goes around comes around! Vacation or not! It's not about the money either. It's the principle.

After second thought, yes, I agree with Mustardman. We should all think about our fellow mongerers, like we should expect that they think about us. That's why we should complain in those cases. For the same reason, we should not overpay and spoil the market. Or we should not treat hookers badly so they treat us badly in return...

It was only going to take me a few minutes, I could have gone the next day and complained. Whether or not I was going to get the money, this was going to discourage or stop the girl from doing it with other customers. Indeed, as a member of the mongering community, that is what I should have done :rolleyes: (except I would have been too drunk to know which bar I got her from, but that's a separate problem:confused: ).

[jeremy]

You are quite right Jimmy, that would have been the right way to handle it: kick out of the door, and 500 baht for the sake of avoiding an argument. That is exacyly what I would have done, if it was earlier. But it was almost 2 am, I knew I could not get another one, so it was either that, or self service...


In time, this sort of thing happens to everyone. The first time it happened to me, I didn't know how to handle it. Now I just toss them out and cut my losses. I have also noticed that picking up the phone to call the lobby tends to wake them up out of their stupor.

Time is too precious in Thailand to waste it. If you pick a girl that turns out bad, my advice is to head right back out and find another.

One of my habits is that I am not one to want to "snuggle" after the fact. It just isn't me. I usually want to discard the girl immediately and go drinking and then find another. I never said I was normal or didn't have issues ...:eek:

[jeremy]

Oh yeah, and as I said upthread, to me, Pattaya is mediocre at best. I love Bangkok, my favorite city on this planet to have fun. And I have seen most of them :)

[mustardman]

Oh yeah, and as I said upthread, to me, Pattaya is mediocre at best. I love Bangkok, my favorite city on this planet to have fun. And I have seen most of them :)

Bangkok is like a restaurant with a limited menu and some days are better than others. Pattaya is like a pussy buffett! All you can eat!:cool:

[puntaarenas]

Bangkok is like a restaurant with a limited menu and some days are better than others. Pattaya is like a pussy buffett! All you can eat!:cool:


Agree ! In a nice restaurant, you have a limited menu but the quality tends to be good or superb, the dishes are made to order, you choose exactly what you want and it's cooked just for you. It will never arrive too hot or too cold. In a buffet, yes you have lots of choice, great value for money, but the quality is lower, and things are not always fresh.

[jeremy]

Bangkok is like a restaurant with a limited menu and some days are better than others. Pattaya is like a pussy buffett! All you can eat!:cool:


My analogy is a bit different: Bangkok is like a nice restaurant, but you have to know what to order and it helps to know the cook. Pattaya is a fast food joint.

[mustardman]

My analogy is a bit different: Bangkok is like a nice restaurant, but you have to know what to order and it helps to know the cook. Pattaya is a fast food joint.

You won't find them any fresher than Pattaya. The problem is a lot are past their expiry date as well.

[puntaarenas]

You won't find them any fresher than Pattaya. The problem is a lot are past their expiry date as well.

Well, you seem to agree... The quality in Pattaya is lower. Of course it depends on taste, maybe my standards are too high. Still, in Pattaya it may be quantity 1,000 with 100 good, in Bangkok it may be quantity 100 with 50 good... As Jeremy said, just know what to order...

[mustardman]

Well, you seem to agree... The quality in Pattaya is lower. Of course it depends on taste, maybe my standards are too high. Still, in Pattaya it may be quantity 1,000 with 100 good, in Bangkok it may be quantity 100 with 50 good... As Jeremy said, just know what to order...


I've never found the quality in Pattaya lower. Just more past their expiry date and the hot ones get snapped up quickly so maybe it seems lower. With all the new mall developments in Pattaya and the increasing congestion in Bangkok there isn't much reason for me to go to Bkk anymore. A lot of girls in Bkk are moving down to Pattaya as they find Pattaya has everything they need (farang ATM's, shopping, good cheap Thai food, markets) and not so much traffic and smog. It's cheaper to live in Pattaya too (for Farangs and Thais)

[Keen_Punter]

Well, you seem to agree... The quality in Pattaya is lower. Of course it depends on taste, maybe my standards are too high. Still, in Pattaya it may be quantity 1,000 with 100 good, in Bangkok it may be quantity 100 with 50 good... As Jeremy said, just know what to order...
If you think that half the girls in BKK are of good quality, then you need your eyes testing.

I really don't think there is any difference. People think the quality in Pattaya is poor simply compared to Bangkok because of the sheer numbers and density. You only have to walk into the Beergarden to see there really isn't much difference.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

If you think that half the girls in BKK are of good quality, then you need your eyes testing.

I really don't think there is any difference. People think the quality in Pattaya is poor simply compared to Bangkok because of the sheer numbers and density. You only have to walk into the Beergarden to see there really isn't much difference.

I agree with your first comment, no way are 50% of Bangkok girls good quality.

I like the way you use the Beergarden to prove your point, the girls in there are the bottom of the food chain, absolute dogs. :(

The overall quality in Bangkok is better because top quality girls are not going to work in Pattaya where the farangs only want to pay 1000 baht LT.

The top Bangkok girls are now demanding 4000 baht LT ----that is if they are willing to go LT. :(

[Keen_Punter]

The top Bangkok girls are now demanding 4000 baht LT ----that is if they are willing to go LT. :(
And that has happened because mugs like you overpay.

[puntaarenas]

It looks like we are going in circles here.

Mustardman says they are not lower quality, but many are beyond expiry date. Well, to me there is an equation here: beyond expiry date = low quality. I prefer the 20-25 range, I think most of us will agree...

Many also say the issue in Pattaya is high demand. Ok, fine. Then let's talk about the quality of AVAILABLE girls...

The cost issue is separate. Yes, BKK is more expensive.

Still, I would conclude that, leaving the money aspect or the quality/value ratio aside, and talking about girls that are actually available, the percentage of cute chicks in BKK is higher, no ? Of course, as someone said above, this assumes the monger knows where to go - not the Beergarden...

[Montydog]

It looks like we are going in circles here.

Mustardman says they are not lower quality, but many are beyond expiry date. Well, to me there is an equation here: beyond expiry date = low quality. I prefer the 20-25 range, I think most of us will agree...
Many also say the issue in Pattaya is high demand. Ok, fine. Then let's talk about the quality of AVAILABLE girls...

The cost issue is separate. Yes, BKK is more expensive.

Still, I would conclude that, leaving the money aspect or the quality/value ratio aside, and talking about girls that are actually available, the percentage of cute chicks in BKK is higher, no ? Of course, as someone said above, this assumes the monger knows where to go - not the Beergarden...

Not me mate, much prefer 25+ know the score aren’t shy in the room (no towel wrestling) and none of that I lub you shit after one day :rolleyes: Just there for a good time while there with you and no bullshit. Also had a 33 Y/O that looked about 23 last time out, she had to show me her ID because I would not believe her age. Worst experience “sex” wise was a stunning looking 20 Y/O fantastic eye candy but clueless in bed. :cool:

[mustardman]

It looks like we are going in circles here.

Mustardman says they are not lower quality, but many are beyond expiry date. Well, to me there is an equation here: beyond expiry date = low quality. I prefer the 20-25 range, I think most of us will agree...

Many also say the issue in Pattaya is high demand. Ok, fine. Then let's talk about the quality of AVAILABLE girls...

The cost issue is separate. Yes, BKK is more expensive.

Still, I would conclude that, leaving the money aspect or the quality/value ratio aside, and talking about girls that are actually available, the percentage of cute chicks in BKK is higher, no ? Of course, as someone said above, this assumes the monger knows where to go - not the Beergarden...


Can we at least agree on the venues? If you include the hundreds of fishbowls around Bkk that cater mostly to rich Thai's and Japanese then yea, Bkk has excellent quality (at a price). I am talking exclusively western venues (beerbars and GoGo's). Talking about those I don't think the quality is that different and Pattaya definitely has much more quantity. Remove all the 1-5's from that equation and the raw numbers of quality girls are probably higher in Pattaya but not that much compared to Bkk.

[udhaystalin]

am going to bangkok and pattaya next month with my friends....any new place that has opened recently?
usually our regular visits are to cupidy in bkk and sabailand in pattaya!

[mustardman]

am going to bangkok and pattaya next month with my friends....any new place that has opened recently?
usually our regular visits are to cupidy in bkk and sabailand in pattaya!


Sabai Dee Massage in Pattaya is better than Sabailand IMHO.

[udhaystalin]

where can i find russian or any other country girls?

[mustardman]

where can i find russian or any other country girls?


In Russia.

[mack100]

dont try to fuck the russian girls! they are fucked op

[jeremy]

Not me mate, much prefer 25+ know the score aren’t shy in the room (no towel wrestling) and none of that I lub you shit after one day :rolleyes: Just there for a good time while there with you and no bullshit. Also had a 33 Y/O that looked about 23 last time out, she had to show me her ID because I would not believe her age. Worst experience “sex” wise was a stunning looking 20 Y/O fantastic eye candy but clueless in bed. :cool:

Well said and this is my view as well.

Besides, a lot of Thai women look at least 10 years younger than they are.

[BiggJC]

Was reading through this thread and I have to make a point about this quote from a month or two ago.

She is now trying to set herself up with someone - "who can take care of her" rather than go back to 'work' I asked her what she will provide for the lucky guy in return - why sex of course! So she is in fact going back to work, but as it will be with one customer instead of lots of different ones she prefers not to see herself as a working girl!

Some would never sell themselves no matter how hard up they are, some will do it occasionally and convince themselves that because they aren't full time they hold some sort of moral high ground, while others have made the full transition and have accepted it.

Another expression I have come across in the past goes along the lines of "Well at least I don't fuck strangers for free every Saturday night like a lot of girls from your country!" When you think about it in some ways that is a valid point, isn't it?

Women are prostitutes the world over. Almost all of them. The difference's are that the full time professionals are honest about it and provide a set service for a set fee. The rest (majority) of the female population the world over hide their prostitution under the guise of femininity. I can't count the number of times I've taken a girl for dinner, a movie, some drinks and at the end of the night ended up alone. Even if I "fuck a stranger for free on a Saturday night" it's never really 'free' is it it fella's. There's the drinks you bought her at the bar. The cab ride to yer place or hers. Possibly buying breakfast the next day. And then the taxi journey home as well.

And when you finally find a girl to settle down with and no longer have all the initial set-up costs of the courting period you end up with the maintenance charges. I've never had a 50/50 split with any woman, and don't know anyone who has. Not to mention the joys of divorce and the un-equal distribution of assets that have usually been acquired by the labours of the male partner. Granted, there are some smart/lucky punters out there who've got a sugar momma that foots the majority of the costs, but that's a definite few-and-far-between situation.

Women use their pussy like an ATM. We put our cocks in and they get the money out! The similarities to BKK and Pattaya are spot on. The best looking girls work in the go-go's and you pay top baht for them. The best looking girls throughout the world are also attached to the man with the biggest wallet. Don't see too many stunners in the passenger seat of a beat-up old car, and likewise you don't see too many dogs on the bow of some billionaires yacht during the Monaco Grand Prix.

Call it what you will, but at least in the LOS you get what you pay for. To a certain extent anyway. Now, the next time some feminist nazi questions your reasons for visiting Thailand or any other holiday land of debauchery you can tell her to pay for your drinks and the cab ride.

[mustardman]

Was reading through this thread and I have to make a point about this quote from a month or two ago.



Women are prostitutes the world over. Almost all of them. The difference's are that the full time professionals are honest about it and provide a set service for a set fee. The rest (majority) of the female population the world over hide their prostitution under the guise of femininity. I can't count the number of times I've taken a girl for dinner, a movie, some drinks and at the end of the night ended up alone. Even if I "fuck a stranger for free on a Saturday night" it's never really 'free' is it it fella's. There's the drinks you bought her at the bar. The cab ride to yer place or hers. Possibly buying breakfast the next day. And then the taxi journey home as well.

And when you finally find a girl to settle down with and no longer have all the initial set-up costs of the courting period you end up with the maintenance charges. I've never had a 50/50 split with any woman, and don't know anyone who has. Not to mention the joys of divorce and the un-equal distribution of assets that have usually been acquired by the labours of the male partner. Granted, there are some smart/lucky punters out there who've got a sugar momma that foots the majority of the costs, but that's a definite few-and-far-between situation.

Women use their pussy like an ATM. We put our cocks in and they get the money out! The similarities to BKK and Pattaya are spot on. The best looking girls work in the go-go's and you pay top baht for them. The best looking girls throughout the world are also attached to the man with the biggest wallet. Don't see too many stunners in the passenger seat of a beat-up old car, and likewise you don't see too many dogs on the bow of some billionaires yacht during the Monaco Grand Prix.

Call it what you will, but at least in the LOS you get what you pay for. To a certain extent anyway. Now, the next time some feminist nazi questions your reasons for visiting Thailand or any other holiday land of debauchery you can tell her to pay for your drinks and the cab ride.


Maybe you should stop buying the drinks and dinner! I buy lady drinks in Thailand sometimes because that system is in place but I never willingly will buy a regular woman drinks or dinner. NEVER. If a woman asks me to buy her a drink I'll say I don't know her well enough or turn the table on her and say "you can get this round and I'll get the next". One thing I learned in my years of not getting laid is it's all about power. Women are constantly testing you and always want more power but as soon as you give it to them they have no longer have any sexual interest in you.

[mack100]

Thats The Truth!!!!

[bijimi]

Ya know there are actually many girls out there that are just sluts who gag for the cock as much or more than we want pussy.

Not every girl has a $$$ sign on her hole.

[jaybird]

Interesting blog - "Why Pattaya's Price Per Pop Is Lower Than Bangkok's:
http://www.PattayaGhost.com/2008/07/07/tfs2m-why-pattayas-price-per-pop-is-lower-than-bangkoks/

[puntaarenas]

Maybe you should stop buying the drinks and dinner! I buy lady drinks in Thailand sometimes because that system is in place but I never willingly will buy a regular woman drinks or dinner. NEVER. If a woman asks me to buy her a drink I'll say I don't know her well enough or turn the table on her and say "you can get this round and I'll get the next". One thing I learned in my years of not getting laid is it's all about power. Women are constantly testing you and always want more power but as soon as you give it to them they have no longer have any sexual interest in you.

Ya, even better, go up to a girl and say "hi, will you buy me a drink ?". it works wonders - as long as it is clear that you are not a beggar who really cannot buy a drink... she will laugh, then you will explain "well, I believe in gender equality", and the conversation is on...

[mustardman]

Ya, even better, go up to a girl and say "hi, will you buy me a drink ?". it works wonders - as long as it is clear that you are not a beggar who really cannot buy a drink... she will laugh, then you will explain "well, I believe in gender equality", and the conversation is on...


Yikes you lost me at "I believe in gender equality". That is a suck up line and they can smell that shit a mile away. I like your opening line idea though.

[puntaarenas]

Yikes you lost me at "I believe in gender equality". That is a suck up line and they can smell that shit a mile away. I like your opening line idea though.

Well, I would say "I believe in gender equality" with sarcasm. I may add something like "and therefore it's woman who should pay from now on. hey, but I am not that easy. the fact that you buy me a drink does not mean that I am going to sleep with you".

[mustardman]

Well, I would say "I believe in gender equality" with sarcasm. I may add something like "and therefore it's woman who should pay from now on. hey, but I am not that easy. the fact that you buy me a drink does not mean that I am going to sleep with you".

Now your talkin!

[gally]

Was reading through this thread and I have to make a point about this quote from a month or two ago.



Women are prostitutes the world over. Almost all of them. The difference's are that the full time professionals are honest about it and provide a set service for a set fee. The rest (majority) of the female population the world over hide their prostitution under the guise of femininity. I can't count the number of times I've taken a girl for dinner, a movie, some drinks and at the end of the night ended up alone. Even if I "fuck a stranger for free on a Saturday night" it's never really 'free' is it it fella's. There's the drinks you bought her at the bar. The cab ride to yer place or hers. Possibly buying breakfast the next day. And then the taxi journey home as well.

.

Yes, i've come to realize that prostitution is a state of mind. Many western guys are married to western women that are total whores. They are just very cunning about it and so it gets lost in the name of love and marriage. I've met 3rd world girls that i've been more than happy to hand money over too knowing they needed it so much. But their disposition was not money grabbing like many western women.